Do not expect emotional support from women!

[manfrombelow]

I disagree with this to a degree. Women will offer emotional support to a man who they have high interest in and who they are getting what they feel they need from. If she is emotionally satisfied with the man, she will be supportive and even helpful in dealing with an obstacle that he is experiencing.

Now, if the woman is feeling she is NOT getting what she needs from the man to begin with, I agree then that she will not provide support to him. In fact, in this case, she can be downright cold when he is experiencing trials and tribulations while still expecting him to provide 100% support to her.

Bottom line: they will provide support to the man; albeit it is conditional.

100% agree, but still, men should not expect emotional support from them ANYWAY, don't you agree?

 

[The Diver]

If you put them in the position where they have to provide you emotional support, they'd start seeing you as a woman, not a man anymore.

Modern women will bs you that they want sensitive, vulnerable men who can express their feeling, show their weak side, but when you do so, they repulsed by you and kick you to the curb.

I fell for this trap once, and it ended with disastrous results. Lesson learned.

The reality is that you can't relying on your partner to provide you with emotional support when you most need her.

If you need emotional support, seek it from your male friend, not a woman, and never from your GF.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Men and women are different. Totally different.

One common mistake I used to make with women was that I thought they could offer me emotional support. Man how fvcking wrong I was!

See, the thing I learned the hard way here is, due to the fundamental difference in the way women and men were built, our fundamental "roles" are also different.

So, in the case of "providing emotional support", it is (sadly) the men's job. It is us who offer women emotional support, NOT FVCKING VICE-VERSA.

It is a one-way street. Women are simply unable and incapable of providing emotional support to men. Because they can only do that to each other aka other women. If you put them in the position where they have to provide you emotional support, they'd start seeing you as a woman, not a man anymore.

And the moment they stop seeing you as a man, is the moment their Interest Level (if there was any) in you START TO DECREASE.

So yeah, as men, do not seek emotional support from women. It's a feminine behaviour. It's simple as that.

I think all but the newest newbies here figured this one out. Ideally, you would think they "can", but it's just not a good idea. Some women are good at it, but even then, you should not use them for this. It won't take long before they no longer see you as a full man.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Well, if a man does everything right, he DOES get emotional support from a woman without even having to ask for it, because right at that moment, the woman is in full submissive mode. But here's the thing: Most of the time, if not all the time, the juice is not worth the squeeze when it comes to what you can "get" from women. Yes she might give you the emotional support you need plus a mind-blowing ******* because right at this moment you are being perceived as higher level than where she is. But the very next day, if for whatever reasons that you lose your "status" in her eyes, not only she'll withhold/decrease the emotional support she just gave you the day before, she'll start demanding, nagging, and giving you tons of drama and bullsh!t.

I get it when you say that they CAN provide "emotional support" when they choose to thru submission and respect. But leaning on them to try to get that support is failure and can be backed by 10's of millions of cases around the world.

 

[manfrombelow]

I think all but the newest newbies here figured this one out. Ideally, you would think they "can", but it's just not a good idea. Some women are good at it, but even then, you should not use them for this. It won't take long before they no longer see you as a full man.

In short: Just because they "can" do something for you, doesn't mean they'll be happy doing it for you, and doesn't mean they want you to keep asking them to do it for you.

 

[Barrister]

Then there is no reason to bring a problem, personal issue of magnitude, things that hurt you, up. We really are capable of changing our emotions and states. Changing our viewpoint.

Your father dying is one thing. A woman in the past treating you bad or how things are unfair at work or any other such nonsense will be detrimental.

You talk about it after you have solved it. Have come to a conclusion on how it made you grow. The emphasis is about overcoming your obstacles not about what beat you up. Lamenting failures is never acceptable. Anything that did not turn out well in the long run is framed as “bytch” by a woman’s biological inputs. Nobody said that she wasn’t compassionate. But when you don’t overcome or lament or complain, it destabilizes her. There’s nothing she can do about it. No matter how much she wants to be there for you.

Bottom line…she is destabilized when she gets defaulted to “without her help you are a victim” or she has to put the same attention on you as she does her children. She absolutely doesn’t want to be your emergency crutch.

But you are free to search that type of woman out. Free will. Go forth.

Your posts are non sequiturs to what I’m saying. Again, I’m not advocating to make your woman into your own emotional tampon. I agree that has a negative effect. Nor am I out searching for an “emergency crutch.” It’s almost like you’re putting words in my mouth just have a debate with me. I guess it wouldn’t be the first time I don’t understand something (or someone) on SS. Carry on how you wish.

 

[Barrister]

100% agree, but still, men should not expect emotional support from them ANYWAY, don't you agree?

Of course I agree you should never have an expectation for this. A man needs to be able to take care of his own problems. I’m merely making the observation that in the case of a past LTR(s) I have been in, emotional support has been given by the females I was with. This of course can have negative impact if they feel they are having to continually provide it.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Of course I agree you should never have an expectation for this. A man needs to be able to take care of his own problems. I’m merely making the observation that in the case of a past LTR(s) I have been in, emotional support has been given by the females I was with. This of course can have negative impact if they feel they are having to continually provide it.

Let's just say this... She should provide natural "emotional support" as a result of SUBMISSION that she chooses to do or is subconscious. But you canot feel down and place your burden on her. Her energy should be naturally feminine to your masculine and provide amplification and upliftment. You can't ask for or demand it, it should be natural.

If your energies class with hers or hers tries to "out masculine" you or to encroach in your masculine space or reduce you, then it's not a good fit and not compatable.

 

[manfrombelow]

Let's just say this... She should provide natural "emotional support" as a result of SUBMISSION that she chooses to do or is subconscious. But you canot feel down and place your burden on her. Her energy should be naturally feminine to your masculine and provide amplification and upliftment. You can't ask for or demand it, it should be natural.

If your energies class with hers or hers tries to "out masculine" you or to encroach in your masculine space or reduce you, then it's not a good fit and not compatable.

Very good point there, brother. So the whole "Emotional Support" from women is something nice-to-have as long as they happily and willingly and naturally give it to you as a result of them being 100% submissive to you, but it must not be something that you have to desire/crave/demand from them, especially on a daily basis (come on man!).

Very good point you made there, brother. Thanks!

 

[Barrister]

Yeah I think we are both missing each other’s meaning. I want no argument. We both missed it. Please excuse.

I appreciate that. And I apologize if I was misinterpreting what you were saying.

 

[manfrombelow]

Most men crave emotional support from their women the same way they did with their mothers. But let's not forget our girlfriends/wives are NOT (and NEVER will be) our mothers. They don't want to see you as their babies, so do not approach them with the intention of getting emotional support from them. It's too much a baggage to handle, and it's tiring. You are men, you might want emotional support from time to time, yes, I agree, but you don't need it, you don't want to need it, from your women.

I know this is harsh. But it's reality. And reality is harsh.

 

[ubercat]

I had a mate who was a boss at this. He was pretty shattered by the break up of a relationship. Classic monkey branching situation. And then made some career mistakes that along with a dip in the job market lead to him been out of work for a year.

Took him a couple of years to come back but he did it all on his own. Explored alternative types of work. Upped his qualifications in his field. Used his making skills to start a side Hustle online and got deeper into his own interests and went through his own form of redpill. During that time he still picked up chicks with his charm and personality. And played it cool there was no leaning. Huge respect. Anyone can look good when things are going their way.