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Do NOT argue with a woman.

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... cause rarely you'll be able to win.

Men are action-oriented creatures. Everyone who has been at SoSuave for some time knows this.

Women are the ones who build their worlds on words.
That's why they can't make anything happen.

When you have some issue, do NOT say anything, just ACT on it, SOLVE IT -- DO NOT SAY ANTHING! The more you talk, the more you get into trouble. Say only what is absolutely necessary.

When you're into a verbal fight with a woman, let her speak. They're AMAZING at twisting what you say to mean what they want. The logic of the conversation becomes just bizarre -- then you can't argue anymore, cause everything you say will be twisted and used against you.

So ACT, DON'T TALK! This will give you respect and peace of mind.

Cheers!
 

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What about if you happen to have a damn fast, logical mind and can outsmart them and twist their words, and manipulate the arguement better? When I really start trying most people give up.

Though I tend not to like being stubborn, so I say a bit and when they are starting to get flustered and defensive I just stop, it becomes pointless.
 

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Originally posted by djbr
... cause rarely you'll be able to win.

Men are action-oriented creatures. Everyone who has been at SoSuave for some time knows this.

Women are the ones who build their worlds on words.
That's why they can't make anything happen.

When you have some issue, do NOT say anything, just ACT on it, SOLVE IT -- DO NOT SAY ANTHING! The more you talk, the more you get into trouble. Say only what is absolutely necessary.

When you're into a verbal fight with a woman, let her speak. They're AMAZING at twisting what you say to mean what they want. The logic of the conversation becomes just bizarre -- then you can't argue anymore, cause everything you say will be twisted and used against you.

So ACT, DON'T TALK! This will give you respect and peace of mind.

Cheers!
you're basically describing weak minded men

strong minded men won't let a girl twist their words into saying what the girl wants.
 

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you are right djbr, but when you say take action, you will find thats oftne not possible, if its a dumb argument you can leave her hanging, but genraly the best way to stop the argument is by not disagreeing with her.

If some one told her you cheated on her and you really didnt then obviously you ownt agree but rather then just saying no i didnt, in that situation you would ask how she knows this, once she says her freind told her, then you can say her freind is wrong, this way you do not say to ehr she is wrong.

Basicly people do not want to be proven wrong, so dont prove them wrong, try to look at it from their prespective.

An argument takes 2 people so like djbr said dont argue back, but im just telling you what you should do, which is show her oyu understand where shes ocmming form even if you dont, and dont try and prove her wrong, infact if she knows shes wrong and oyu both know it yet you do not tell her shes wrong, then she will respect you.

disclaimer: There is a diffrence between reasoning and being a pu$$ey, keep your dignity.
 

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LAW 9
Win through your actions, never through argument.

-48 Laws of Power
 

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he's actually right.

It has nothing to do with Weak mindedness... men have a need to Make Sense, won't don't.

More than anything, I have better things to do then to watse my time arguing, just get off the phone/ leave.

See, women arugue, they get emotional and for most guys, it makes you want to get emotional back and that's when the real arguement starts. Just check yourself, and say "I don't need this" and leave the issue alone.
 

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Originally posted by arutha
What about if you happen to have a damn fast, logical mind and can outsmart them and twist their words, and manipulate the arguement better?
Then you'll have no friends.
 

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Re: Re: Do NOT argue with a woman.

Originally posted by Fatality
you're basically describing weak minded men

strong minded men won't let a girl twist their words into saying what the girl wants.
In fact, strong man don't give a *fvck* if a girl do not understand or twists what he is saying. He does what he wants anyway. He doesn't waste time explaining shyt.

Originally posted by arutha
What about if you happen to have a damn fast, logical mind and can outsmart them and twist their words, and manipulate the arguement better? When I really start trying most people give up.

Though I tend not to like being stubborn, so I say a bit and when they are starting to get flustered and defensive I just stop, it becomes pointless.
Then you can use your super fast mind to do other things than trying to convince a woman to believe in what you're saying. :) -- In the end, you'll find out that you have many other better things to do, as it becomes pointless. Exactly.
 

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anyone who thinks of what they say before they say it always looks sharp witted.just think more before you act.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I agree, if a woman is going to get emotional over something simple, there's no reason to defend yourself.

I got into an argument with a coworker last friday, she kept accusing me of doing this and that, some of what she said was right, some of what she said was wrongfully assumed. I then said outloud "OKAY, LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT" and then repeated what she said, and I just nodded okay then got back to my work. She went back to work too.

An AFC would do the same, but offer solutions or rebuttals which escalate the argument into further unproductive and bitter time.
 

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If you are in a ltr, every time one of you calls the other one a name or says something in anger designed to hurt as much as possible, the ltr will carry the burden of that fight forever. Couples who fight a lot can't ever really make up because they are just continuing the same fight and picking up where they last left off. Apologies are cheap. It is ten times better to bite your tongue than say something you regret, because some statements can never be fully taken back.
 
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Never argue with an idiot!
First he'll bring you down to his level, and then he'll beat you with expirience!!!




Sasha - I did it my way
 

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The book "How to make friends and influence people" offers a good tip - when you argue with someone, even if you are the Angel of Reason, they will only believe in their own opinion even more.

The best way to win an argument is to agree with the other person, but suggest alternatives (criticise the problem, not the person). I've done this with every LTR problem and it worked like a charm.
 

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The more you talk, the more you get into trouble. Say only what is absolutely necessary.

I agree 100%. Never try to talk your way out of anything, or explain yourself, or try to put things right or you'll end up digging yourself a nice big grave for your relationship.
 

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When you're into a verbal fight with a woman, let her speak. They're AMAZING at twisting what you say to mean what they want. The logic of the conversation becomes just bizarre -- then you can't argue anymore, cause everything you say will be twisted and used against you.
This is completely true. It doesn't matter how quick your mind is. Men think logically and women think emotionally. And the twain shall never meet. By consenting to the argument you legitamize whatever she's saying and enter into her reality. Don't be suckered into a game you can't win.
 

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WHEN A WOMAN DISRESPECTS ME, I FORCE CHOKE HER, AND IF I'M HORNY ENOUGH I PUT MY PENIS IN HER AT THE SAME TIME.
 

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Originally posted by darthsidious
WHEN A WOMAN DISRESPECTS ME, I FORCE CHOKE HER, AND IF I'M HORNY ENOUGH I PUT MY PENIS IN HER AT THE SAME TIME.
Why not just use the force more constructively?

DS: You want to stop this silly nonsense.

HB:I want to stop this silly nonsense.

DS: You are dying to suck my c0ck, play with my balls and let me give you the brown-eye special.

HB: I am dying to suck your c0ck, play with your balls and let you give me the brown-eye special.

DS: Yessssssss.....I am your daddy! :cool:
 

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Originally posted by arutha
What about if you happen to have a damn fast, logical mind and can outsmart them and twist their words, and manipulate the arguement better? When I really start trying most people give up.
Don't, for the love of God, fall into this trap of feeling like Einstein of verbal communication. Use silence. Use eye contact. Use spontainety. Use kino. Use whatever means possible just don't yap your mouth off, especially when the topic of your relationship with her is brought up. Words are only words, you gotta show her something else (props to Rob Thomas for this one).
Cheers.
 
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Originally posted by Don Ronny
Why not just use the force more constructively?

DS: You want to stop this silly nonsense.

HB:I want to stop this silly nonsense.

DS: You are dying to suck my c0ck, play with my balls and let me give you the brown-eye special.

HB: I am dying to suck your c0ck, play with your balls and let you give me the brown-eye special.

DS: Yessssssss.....I am your daddy! :cool:
TOO MUCH WORK, i have to go wash my balls now
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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