“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Do men belong on Hotornot.com?

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The idea of posting pics of yourself so you can be judged by your looks strikes me as an inherantly female thing to do. Pure validation. Pure attention through looks. We all know that it's in women's nature to crave these things. And so it's no wonder at all that women of all quality are posting pics to hotornot.com. But men? A DJ is too busy living his life to post pics for others' approval. Why would he care what strangers think of his appearance? He can have all the looks and a ripped body, but still be a chump inside. Agreed? And as a potential meeting site, i would think very few hotties are going to want to meet you because, again, they're using the site for pure, 100% free validation. Why would they want to meet you? No, the entire purpose of the site is validation.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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It's a conduit for meeting other people. Its all about intent. What's your intent? Is it to get validation? Or is it a means to an end, the end being meeting women to socialize with? There are no absolutes. When you go to work is it because you are going to do something you absolutely love doing (some are yes)? Or are you doing it Partially to bring home the bacon? We don't always do things for one reason.
 

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the only reason people put themselves on hot or not is because they hope that they are hot.

people, for some reason, think that if they were 'hot' it would solve all their problems in life. they want to believe that they have a body image disorder where they think they are ugly but in real life they aren't. that their low self esteem just makes them think they are ugly.

its like those chics who will do anything the moment you put a camera on them. they think theres some magical power in the camera and once they are on video tape / tv suddenly they will be rich and famous.

i feel bad for those folks who get low ratings. i mean, what possessed them to put their picture up there.

i would not be surprised if there have been a few suicide attempts by some folks after posting their pics and getting scores of 2 or 3.
 

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This site is just to that people can judge other people, and then make themselves feel good. If THAT person is hot, then I must be too, so my life is really ok.

Same thing with all the worthless talk shows. People compare their problems to everyone elses problems. That's why these shows get the worst of the worst people, and all the issues they have. The viewers think, hey this person has 8 kids and doesn't know who the daddy is, so...my life isn't so bad after all, and they get a temporary ego boost.

It's all BS in the end. People just kid themselves. Don't waste your time with this stuff. 99% of the internet and television is crap.

When you realize your time is valuable you just laugh at all this..
 

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BadAssMoFo said:
Just like a person can know all the "right" techniques..use stupid sounding words like "Kino", and be 34 years old and on a seduction website arguing about the intent of hotornot.com

get a life
Wow, this response is straight from the Useless Misguided Drivel Department.

I think the OP brings up a great point which deserves to be discussed on this site.

...and to the original point. Yes, hotornot and the concept of friend's lists on online social sites is inherently female and adolescent. On the inside I am so devoid of strength and character and my spine is made of tissue paper, so I must instead define and substantiate my existence through the meaningless blind affirmations of complete strangers.

Yes, welcome back to high school! Thought you left, didn't you? :cheer:
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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joekerr31 said:
its like those chics who will do anything the moment you put a camera on them. they think theres some magical power in the camera and once they are on video tape / tv suddenly they will be rich and famous.
:yes:

Why do you think I just invested a lot of cash into video equipment? It's amazing what women will do for free if they are in front of a camera.

As for hotornot, who cares. If it works for you (you meet women) there isn't any reason to listen to anyone else about whether it's "AFC".
 

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Putting a picture in the internet for others to vote if you are hot or not is purely PATHETIC...and feminine.
 

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agreed, L-man. No secure person would do so, BUT as other posters have pointed out, if it is to meet chicks, it's an unavoidable part of the process.
 

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There is at least one practical reason I can think of to put pictures on hot or not. Say you are making a dating profile on match.com or one of the other dating sites and you're going through your photos trying to find the best ones to for your profile. Well, you might one to place them on hotornot first to see which ones get the highest ratings, and then use only those. It could end up saving you a lot of money and wasted time.
 

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GtarPlayr73 said:
The idea of posting pics of yourself so you can be judged by your looks strikes me as an inherantly female thing to do. Pure validation. Pure attention through looks. We all know that it's in women's nature to crave these things. And so it's no wonder at all that women of all quality are posting pics to hotornot.com. But men? A DJ is too busy living his life to post pics for others' approval. Why would he care what strangers think of his appearance? He can have all the looks and a ripped body, but still be a chump inside. Agreed? And as a potential meeting site, i would think very few hotties are going to want to meet you because, again, they're using the site for pure, 100% free validation. Why would they want to meet you? No, the entire purpose of the site is validation.
Watching the film revolver last night.

Very good film.

A quote in it.

To seek praise and validation from others is the reason 'you' get up out of bed on a morning.

The reason you put up with your sh*t* job, the reason you entertain that nagging GF, the reason you dress up, the reason you try to look as good as possible, is due to the fact where just monkeys in suits!

Kinda rings true.

when one seeks outside validation for there perceptions on life, then to me thats pritty fuc*ed up, but saying that 99.9% of the population do it and most are not even aware of it.

It is how they get you to buy the latest trends, to run around the wheels of the hamster cage and to slot in. To gain others approval, to seek praise for some one to turn around and say 'i like xxxx'!

Its the reason you get up, to work to expand to gain approval, even if you dont have that mindset, you will be boosting about some silly achievement in your life eventually, its what makes us human, 'look at me, ain't i great, please recognize how great i am'!

Plug yourself out and you can see its not about 'you' its always about 'them'!

hence why Hot or not is interesting as it is a reflection of what i am refering to.

Its simply a means to get that approval from others, it just happens to be looks in this situation.

Read How to win friends and influence poeple, will illustrate the mindset at work here.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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jonwon said:
Watching the film revolver last night.

Very good film.

A quote in it.

To seek praise and validation from others is the reason 'you' get up out of bed on a morning.
This is a crock of sophomoric BS. Written by some vain Hollywood screenwriter who defines the world by his (or her) own pet notions and limitations.

I get up out of bed in the morning cause sometimes the path to getting back into bed tonight is worth the ride :)

Believe it or not, there are those of us who truly don't consider it our duty in life to entertain others, or be entertained by anybody.
 

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The only reason a guy puts his picture on hot or not and other such bullsh!t sites is cruising for c0ck. Same as a chick; validation and attention.

If one of you fellows are entertaining the idea of posting your snap on this sh!t do yourself a favor and get your tongue pierced and some kneepads so you can comfortably chug the meatsicle.
 

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insidious said:
This is a crock of sophomoric BS. Written by some vain Hollywood screenwriter who defines the world by his (or her) own pet notions and limitations.

I get up out of bed in the morning cause sometimes the path to getting back into bed tonight is worth the ride :)

Believe it or not, there are those of us who truly don't consider it our duty in life to entertain others, or be entertained by anybody.

Then your out of the loop!

Tell you what here is an experiment for you to try since you really dont give a shi? about what others think about you.

go stand in a mall, just stand there for 20mins in one spot and try to remain cool calm and not even consider what others may think about you, regardless you will have these thoughts going on in your head if you like it or not:

Am i standing normally?
Do i look like an idiot stood here?
Is anyone staring at me?
Wonder if that girl thinks i am cute?
i bet that guy likes my jacket?
Dam look at me aint i cool stood here, showing the world i dont care, aint i the best!

And things of that nature.

Go read the book before you dismiss what i just wrote it makes total sense.

Hot or not is simply another extension of others trying to gain a feeling of importance through what others think about them, which ever way you look at it.

And i meet people like you all the time, normally, ppl who come out with this stuff usually talk in the 'I' subjective, hence its always about 'you' see an example from the post 'I get up out of bed on a morning to enjoy the ride'! I mean does that statement mean anything? (why look on this as negative, why cant you enjoy the ride by the concept i suggest?) Another example is guys that learn this stuff and still cant help themselves, one guy i was out with last night constantly talking about his achievements what he has done, not in the sense of trying to impress but he simply cant help it!

or take two old ladies last week, both talking to each other, but neither listening to each other, both talking about there lives, it was funny to listen, only time they paid attention is when on of the others actually started talking about what the other was interested in talking about!

Hot or Not is a simple extension of it!

Men and women are as guilty as each other for it.

Is it more feminine to gain approval from others?

we all do it, if your aware of it or not.]

And this concept did not come about by a 21 century Film maker, he simply imbedded a message into the film that has been know for years!

Read how to win friends and influence ppl and it will help shatter any social restrictions you have built up, but no one can destroy them, yes revolver was a good film as the guy was fighting his inner demons which is what, when all is said and done we all do!

Maybe this is too deep in a thread about if men should use hot or not! tbh.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
The only reason a guy puts his picture on hot or not and other such bullsh!t sites is cruising for c0ck. Same as a chick; validation and attention.
I honestly don't know where I rank in terms of looks other than kind of general.

I put pictures up for a while on hotornot to get a clue. I've known about it since around the time it came out like a decade ago, but finally decided to see just what a picture of me would get AND to help decide which pictures to put on myspace (yeah i know i'm soooo pathetic that i can get laid off the internet.)

I don't get validation or attention. All i got was people putting numbers. Who knows who is actually voting and why people vote what they do.

And it still didn't teach me anything. My pictures got anywhere from 6s to 9s. They don't vote on your looks so much as they vote on your clothes and the lighting, where the picture is taken, and whether you're a girl wearing a bikini top or a tshirt. Why do so many people vote me 1s, 2s, and 3s while the other half are giving 8s and 9s? Wtf is that about? I'm either really hot or really ugly to a person with no middle ground?

I had a girl text message me today that she got an 8.6 putting her pic on hotornot. This girl in real life is barely above a 6 - not even up for debate or variance of personal preferences.

It's freakin bogus except to the really ugly people who no amount of photo tricks will help.
 

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why not just do something for fun? I remember being at house parties with 12-15 people standing around just rating people and joking about hotornot. that was at least 6-7 years ago. anyone who takes that seriously has issues. anyone who puts up a picture for more then fun or takes it as serious as your taking it has issues. too many psych majors here. jeez. :rolleyes: you know some people just do it FOR FUN. for a laugh.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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