Do long term relationships last anymore or have they gone away of the dodo...

[StrayCat]

Not things to last anymore. Everything seems to be timed and only a few months; at best. Are LTRs going the way of the dodo bird? I was speaking to some co-workers and it seems they too run through partners like a mill. I've asked don't you want something long term? One told me why? There's been so much c0ck through these girls, it's just my turn and then they're on to the next one. Another told me, once the seas get a bit rough, the girls turn off and go into silent mode and cannot discuss issues; and the relationship ends.

Is this a means to an end?

 

[Roober]

If we stick to a trackable stat, almost 50% of americans are married.

People are getting married later in their 20's, which is a direct correlation of the drop in marriage rate. I imagine it is close to 75% of americans are in some form of committed relationship, but their is no way to track LTR statuses outside of marriage.

Quit looking though a tunnel and you will see the whole picture.

 

[R.U.G.]

50% - 60% of first marriages fail. 62% - 73% of second marriages fail. 75% + of third marriages fail. This doesn't account for the men and women who stay in miserable marriages because they are afraid of being alone or being divorce raped. Marriages and long term relationships mean little to most modern people anymore. Women think they can always do better. Most men are too concerned about losing their assets in case of a failed marriage to go down the aisle again. Thus, we're at a stalemate. Most men who do go down the aisle are either first timers, blue pilled or are afraid to lose the woman. There is nothing in it for most men. Men are usually with women for sex and maybe start a family. However, even the later is questioned now. Why? Because look how many times women file for divorce once the children are in school or go off to college. Then the man is divorce raped and possibly add alimony and child support on top of that. Again, not worth the risk.

 

[Who Dares Win]

LTRs work when women think they cant do better than that and the guy doesnt behave to bad, thats all.

A guy has very few weight when it comes of keeping his wife nowdays, no amount of game or swag in a single man can counter social media, her friends on social media, sex&thecity culture and so on.

Given that women cant tell the different between being desired as fvck buddies rather than wifes, there will always be a man more attractive or more appreciated from her friends than you.

To balance this thing out there should be a fully accepted form of marriage called "no sh1t given to anyone in case of divorce".

This will allow man to get married to begin with then with some luck good chances of keeping her especially post wall.

Right now getting married in your mid 20s to a western woman is like playing russian rulette with a shotgun.

 

[flowtheory]

Side question: if you sign a prenuptial agreement, does this actually protect all your individual assets before you enter in to marriage, or does that even have loopholes?

 

[Billtx49]

Side question: if you sign a prenuptial agreement, does this actually protect all your individual assets before you enter in to marriage, or does that even have loopholes?

That depends on the quality level of your attorney. When it comes to legal work, get the best.

 

[ubercat]

That's kind of the definition of a good girl. One who is still a bit grounded. Realises that she is normal and just requires a guy who has a s*** together to a normal extent. But I don't go looking for them in western culture anymore the odds are too stacked. I've been with my current girlfriend for just over 2 years and the one before that was two and a half. They are Asian. Relationship before that was five and a half years and the girl was Romanian. In between times I went out with any number of Western girls and did what they r good for - drinking and sex.

 

[R.U.G.]

Side question: if you sign a prenuptial agreement, does this actually protect all your individual assets before you enter in to marriage, or does that even have loopholes?

Well, not anymore. There was a landmark case in New York where a man had a pre-nup with is wife on Long Island. After 15 years or so they got divorced. The man "verbally promised" to cancel out the pre-nup after 10 years. Again, "verbally promised", nothing in writing. This was good enough for the New York Judge, so he tore up the pre-nup for the wife and she got an equitable part of his real estate empire which she didn't do jack sh!t for. This sent shockwaves through the nation as New York had one of the hardest pre-nups to break. This was the first time this ever happened. Now, they are worthless. Hence forth, all lawyers are recommending people with significant assets to get an irrevocable trust.

If you ever plan to be a success in life, don't get married.

Here's the view from Huffpost:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/11/elizabeth-petrakis-prenup_n_2853146.html

 

[wifehunter]

Quality people won't except anything less.

 

[The Duke]

When I look at all of the single people I know which are mainly age 35-50, I don't see many that are making it work long term. I'm about ready to give up on holding out and go back to "hot & fun".

I've turned down a few opportunities that past couple weeks because they didn't fit exactly what I am wanting.

 

[ubercat]

So Howie, plenty of seats left on the yellow tuna bus and it comes with rice. Or don't they do it for you?

 

[Billtx49]

Well, not anymore. There was a landmark case in New York where a man had a pre-nup with is wife on Long Island. After 15 years or so they got divorced. The man "verbally promised" to cancel out the pre-nup after 10 years. Again, "verbally promised", nothing in writing. This was good enough for the New York Judge, so he tore up the pre-nup for the wife and she got an equitable part of his real estate empire which she didn't do jack sh!t for. This sent shockwaves through the nation as New York had one of the hardest pre-nups to break. This was the first time this ever happened. Now, they are worthless. Hence forth, all lawyers are recommending people with significant assets to get an irrevocable trust.

If you ever plan to be a success in life, don't get married.

Here's the view from Huffpost:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/11/elizabeth-petrakis-prenup_n_2853146.html

She had not signed the prenup four days before the wedding until he made a verbal promise supposedly.
Big red gold digger flag there…

Verbal agreements can be considered in court to be contracts if there are other sustaining factors like exchange of money or witnesses. Other wise it’s another case of he said, she said.

Amusing to me that it happened in a mostly liberal state though…

 

[R.U.G.]

She had not signed the prenup four days before the wedding until he made a verbal promise supposedly.
Big red gold digger flag there…

Verbal agreements can be considered in court to be contracts if there are other sustaining factors like exchange of money or witnesses. Other wise it’s another case of he said, she said.

Amusing to me that it happened in a mostly liberal state though…

No one really knows if he said that. Unless, he was dumb enough to admit it. Who knows. Just saying, if you have assets or expect to ever have assets, it's will be a fight to the financial death of one of spouses.

For me, I didn't lose anything, but it was only a year and a few months marriage. However, the legal fees were crazy. A sane person would have to be nuts to want to go through that a second time. No guarantees in life aside from death and taxes. Never again.

 

[R.U.G.]

Quality people won't except anything less.

Good luck with that sort of thinking in this litigious society we live in. If "true love" existed, then why the need for a State sanctioned license? Hmmm... Makes ya wonder a bit... No?

 

[CMNILS87]

If we stick to a trackable stat, almost 50% of americans are married.

People are getting married later in their 20's, which is a direct correlation of the drop in marriage rate. I imagine it is close to 75% of americans are in some form of committed relationship, but their is no way to track LTR statuses outside of marriage.

Quit looking though a tunnel and you will see the whole picture.

I’d also like to wager that a lot of millennial have no money in early 20’s due to massive debt and most guys are socially retarded and can’t get a woman. Then a slit falls in their lap at 30 and they get married

 

[Billtx49]

and most guys are socially retarded and can’t get a woman. Then a slit falls in their lap at 30 and they get married

Yes, loneliness is probably one of the biggest causes of a marital union.

 

[R.U.G.]

Yes, loneliness is probably one of the biggest causes of a marital union.

Also one of the biggest causes of divorce too. Pick your poison. Loneliness via marriage, or loneliness via divorce. Or, you can take room C, the open relationship/marriage. You take the open marriage, she gets half or crap or more AND gets to fvck other men right in front of you. While I wouldn't go for that, apparently, on reddit there are many who do. For that, this video is for them.

LOL.

 

[wifehunter]

Good luck with that sort of thinking in this litigious society we live in. If "true love" existed, then why the need for a State sanctioned license? Hmmm... Makes ya wonder a bit... No?

luck doesn't exist. ..just like the easter bunny.

Anyway, government likes to govern stuff, even marriage.

 

[R.U.G.]

luck doesn't exist. ..just like the easter bunny.

Anyway, government likes to govern stuff, even marriage.

Don't say you were not warned.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Good luck with that sort of thinking in this litigious society we live in. If "true love" existed, then why the need for a State sanctioned license? Hmmm... Makes ya wonder a bit... No?

Marriage is essentially a religious institution. The secular state tried to make it work for a while, but it is now in tatters. If you want marriage today, you got to get religion.

And not a wishy washy sect... the women there are the most 'liberal' of all.