"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Do I smell a scam

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I have been added by a really hot woman on a dating website, she is 26 I'm 42 I would class her as HB 8.5, we got chatting it turns out she is Swedish living in the UK, but she has asked me to contact her through Skype.
Is there any chance of a possible scam here virus attack etc.
Just found her on Facebook she has 97 followers and of them there are about 3 women
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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WTID said:
I have been added by a really hot woman on a dating website, she is 26 I'm 42 I would class her as HB 8.5, we got chatting it turns out she is Swedish living in the UK, but she has asked me to contact her through Skype.
Is there any chance of a possible scam here virus attack etc.
Just found her on Facebook she has 97 followers and of them there are about 3 women
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Yes, people can get your IP address through Skype. It's best to use Proxy's/VPN's like Ultrasurf when Skyping with someone you don't know.
 
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Frayzer said:
Yes, people can get your IP address through Skype. It's best to use Proxy's/VPN's like Ultrasurf when Skyping with someone you don't know.
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Thanks I've deleted her from skype, before she accepted me
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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That's what I'm thinking but what are your reasons
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You are reasonably intelligent enough to know when things are suspect. There are so many women out there within a 5 miles radius (****, within a 1 mile radius) of you that there is no need to play this game.

If I can't exchange phone numbers with a girl, I don't talk to her. Girls offer up their numbers to me via social mediums (e.g. POF) without me even asking for them. Why would I waste my time Skyping with someone I've never met?
 
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No HB 8.5 is gonna message you online. Wishful thinking.

She (he) is phishing for your IP in order to spam you.

Case closed. Delete her.
 
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I don't mess with online dating but what would this scammer gain by getting your IP address?
All that would give is the city you lived in, right?
I don't see how it's related to phishing or anything, but i don't know that much.
 
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1-800-HellNo said:
I don't mess with online dating but what would this scammer gain by getting your IP address?
All that would give is the city you lived in, right?
I don't see how it's related to phishing or anything, but i don't know that much.
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Someone that has your IP address can DDOS your internet, view personal information(including where you live) or even upload spyware/malware(usually advertisement spam, but they can still upload a more severe virus)
Of course if you have a decent security provider like AVG it makes it harder for them to do anything.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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If you think it's a scam it is. Gut is almost always right.
 
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Yeah there are so many scammers on dating sites that if you even have a slight feeling it may be one, 99% of the time it is.
 
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Manti Te'o is that you?
 
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