"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Do i look that old or give old man / old school vibes?

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You ask the same questions every year and get the same answers. Everytime you get great advice. Yet some time passes and you return with the same exact images you uploaded on photo bucket and the same whiny posts.

Remember when you were contemplating getting plastic surgery because you thought you jaw was too weak?

Enough is enough. You do attract gay men and older women and that's all you'll ever attract. That image you posted of the woman is the holy grail of what you'll ever be able to achieve and it has nothing to do with your appearance.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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You ask the same questions every year and get the same answers. Everytime you get great advice. Yet some time passes and you return with the same exact images you uploaded on photo bucket and the same whiny posts.

Remember when you were contemplating getting plastic surgery because you thought you jaw was too weak?

Enough is enough. You do attract gay men and older women and that's all you'll ever attract. That image you posted of the woman is the holy grail of what you'll ever be able to achieve and it has nothing to do with your appearance.
i did have jaw surgery. still have weak jaw. **** genetics i guess.

guess what its not all bad. its guys like me that makes guys like you stand out. For good looking guys to exist there's also ugly guys, so it's not all in vain.
 

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Even if you were the most hideous person in the world, what would've you done about that? (Unless you can afford a plastic surgery but still that could **** up your face even more.)

You can't fix your face. You can't FIX ugliness, FEATURE it. The best option here is to improve yourself in fields where you can, go work out, develop your skills, etc. If you get girls then that's great and even if you don't, you didn't lose anything, right? You still look the same way and still don't get chicks but at least you've improved yourself. The only difference is if you try you might get chicks but if you don't you're not getting hot young chicks.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Even if you were the most hideous person in the world, what would've you done about that? (Unless you can afford a plastic surgery but still that could **** up your face even more.)

You can't fix your face. You can't FIX ugliness, FEATURE it. The best option here is to improve yourself in fields where you can, go work out, develop your skills, etc. If you get girls then that's great and even if you don't, you didn't lose anything, right? You still look the same way and still don't get chicks but at least you've improved yourself. The only difference is if you try you might get chicks but if you don't you're not getting hot young chicks.
Mind telling me what i can't fix? Do i need a nosejob? Hair implants?

is that picture blurry to simulate beer goggles or...?
as someone said before that's the type women i'm entitled to.
 

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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i ve always seen " aim high" here on the dj forum. Aim high even if you fail. Dont settle for less than what you deserve. So how am i different than you guys?
 

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I'd be interested in the before and after jaw surgery pics. You look the same to me.
 

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dustmuffin said:
He didn't get surgery. Those are the same pics he has trotted out before.
I've seen this guy around for 3-4 years. He got cheek augmentation, eye surgery, ear tuck, among other things. OP has a psychological disorder known as body dysmorphia, whereas an individual might indeed have a slight deficiency (like 99% of the world), but the individual exaggerates and understands it as a huge disfigurement. Accordingly, if he states he got jaw surgery, he did.

The only problem with all these surgeries is he bases his entire value on tiny physical improvements which would not likely have made a difference in his overall "game." The only surgery he forgot to focus on was his "psychological" surgery. At this point, after hundreds of these kinds of posts under multiple handles, I don't think OP has much chance for recovery.
 

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i did have jaw surgery to correct sleep apnea. its' called a maxilo mandibular advancement (lefort i + bsso), it was only 5 mm advancement so of course you dont see anything i didnt say it worked out to get a chiseled jaw and i didnt even get a genioplasty even though i asked for one. its not for aesthetic purposes either because jaw surgeries are considered aesthetics whilst MMA is covered by insurance. If anything the Maxilla advanment made my face more chimp like and flatenned/enlarged my nose. nothing to be proud of.

If you dont have the genetics to have a chiseled jaw or if you didnt have the surgery while kid you wont get those sharp angles in adult unless you do a chin wing. so should i blame my **** genetics or my father maybe?

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i hate being called a liar. it was a small change but you can see my nose changed, my lips and mouth changed and maxilla brought forward and i look more chimp like. as for the jaws if they werent developed before you will only get those with jaw implants or chin wing. remember it a was minor 5 milimeters counter clockwise jaw rotation without chin advancement. Tell me dude i would i lie to you? look jaw surgery vs chin wing or jaw surgery vs jaw implants if you are interested.
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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you say i suffer from bdd?

you havent seen me before then

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if you think my eyes were better in the first pic thats great for you. everyone sees what they want to see
 

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1.5 cc of Radiesse in each upper cheekbone.
1.5 cc of Radiesse in each Masseter muscle;
1.5 cc of Radiesse in each Ramus of the Mandible and peripheral of the chin;

And now you are talking.

BTW, before you do that (because I know you will), I'm fvcking with you. Spend your insurance money on a good psychologist. Also, what is your total and free T count?
 

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1.5 cc of Radiesse in each upper cheekbone.
1.5 cc of Radiesse in each Masseter muscle;
1.5 cc of Radiesse in each Ramus of the Mandible and peripheral of the chin;

And now you are talking.

BTW, before you do that (because I know you will), I'm fvcking with you. Spend your insurance money on a good psychologist. Also, what is your total and free T count?
will having high T give me the chiseled jaw i cant have because of genetics? and btw doctor refused those Total and Free T, Estrogen and other related stuff i asked.
 

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T above 700 mg/dl will augment your masculine features including jaw, chin, and neck, due to increased water retention in the muscle bellies. Seek a HRT doctor for blood work; regular physician cannot handle this.

Your thinking and behavior are trademarks of a man with low T. There is a fine line between psychological disorders and physiology. I do believe one acts upon the other. I advised you to check these levels years ago.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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