"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Do Goth Girls need to be DJ'd any differently??

Mr.Fantastic

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Hi,

I am going for a drink with a girl who is a bit on the gothic side (dark makeup, pale face) in a couple of days and was wondering if anybody has had any experience of goths and what to look out for, how to act?

thanks
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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S1NN3R

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Just work off of whatever type of approach you used to procure the date to begin with. Not all goth girls are the same, some are hardcore emo kiddos who want to be bitten on the neck and drink nothing but red wine, others just like the look and may be rather normal otherwise. You know her better than we do.

I knew one goth girl named Kristen who would chide me because I didn't want to let her cut me with a razor, but another named Shelley who looked even more goth that Kristen, but liked to listen to Simon and Garfunkel and watched Saturday morning cartoons every week. They're all different.
 

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Yea, as sinner said, they're all different. I have dated a LOT of goth girls and I find that the best approach is to be modest and not let yourself seem too confident. Most goths are insecure so you being too confident will make them even more insecure. Start soft. Act really down to earth, have some kind of tragic background (your fiance' died, or your parents used to torture you as a kid, etc.), and take the lead after the first couple of dates because many of these girls will get dominant if you don't take the bull by the horns.
 
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