"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Do girls look at your friends to judge yourself?

SayWhat

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Do girls take into account of how your friends look and act to judge yourself?

Because if I look at it, I seem to have more attraction when I'm with other groups than my normal group of friends which I've known for many years.
I must admit I feel more comfortable (and even less ashamed) when I'm with other groups which are more like me. My normal friends are, well it's hard to say, but are basically nerds and completely different than me. They also have this really negative view on life which brings me down as well.

And about searching other friends, next year I'm going to a college city, so hopefully that will be sorted.

P.S.: if this thread is more in place in the 'Anything Else' section, I do apologize.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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SayWhat

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Damn it :).

Perhaps I shouldn't wait till I go to university and start changing some stuff right now.
 

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Oh yeah. Sometimes hanging out with just one idiot friend is enough to make a woman become repelled by you, let alone a group of them. What I've realized lately is that your friends need to be channeled into certain events. Some are good for hanging out at a bar, some are good for picking up women, some are good for learning how to fix your 76 Chevelle. Nothing wrong with hanging out with different kinds of people, but keep in mind that you cannot do certain things with certain friends.

Your beer belly football fan friends will never go rock climbing and your nerdy World of Warcraft addicted friends will do nothing for you as far as getting laid. It's just another thing you have to juggle in life.
 

youngmack

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Yup, im in high school and the group of friends i hang with are known as the players of the school. So everytime i try to approach and game a girl in my school they ALWAYS assume im a player. That really be messing up wit my mackin
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Yeah, they do. I remember my friend's ex girlfriend added me on Facebook. I posted a status related to cannabis/marijuana and she judged him for that.
 

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VladPatton said:
Your beer belly football fan friends will never go rock climbing and your nerdy World of Warcraft addicted friends will do nothing for you as far as getting laid. It's just another thing you have to juggle in life.
I resent the bolded section Vlad lol. I was once a World of Warcraft junkie...but it never hindered my ability to pick up/fvck quality (8/9 HBs) women. Most people never had a clue I played the game, and even if they did it didn't seem to matter. I guess I was never really the "typical" nerd...but heh.

But that aside..I still agree with everything you said hahah!
 

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I use to go to clubs with a bunch of my long time friends. They dressed horrible, couldn't dance, didn't drink, and couldn't approach a girl without crapping themselves...after I moved to a different state NY to LA I found new friends that I go out with.

I roll with 2 other guys. We are all in great shape, dress really fashionable, love to drink, and very very social with women.

The point is when I was with my first group of friends I was on my own. When I started going out with the second group, the looks, the responses, the women started lining up. (figuratively)

Go out and have fun with your old friends! But maybe if you are going out to party and meet some women, bring friends that are on the same page! 100% makes a difference.
 

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Of course she'll judge you by your company, just as you will judge her by her's. Especially if she's got enough orbiters to form an asteroid belt.
 

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VladPatton said:
Oh yeah. Sometimes hanging out with just one idiot friend is enough to make a woman become repelled by you, let alone a group of them. What I've realized lately is that your friends need to be channeled into certain events. Some are good for hanging out at a bar, some are good for picking up women, some are good for learning how to fix your 76 Chevelle. Nothing wrong with hanging out with different kinds of people, but keep in mind that you cannot do certain things with certain friends.

Your beer belly football fan friends will never go rock climbing and your nerdy World of Warcraft addicted friends will do nothing for you as far as getting laid. It's just another thing you have to juggle in life.
so much truth in this post
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Gonna give this a bump as I sit with a new question.

I haven't seen my friends sinds about 3 weeks and will not see them till (probably) next week saturday or sunday. Reason is because of exams and studying.

During this time I've realized more and more that they're not right for me (at least some of them, the other part is ok). They're just too different, don't do crazy stuff, do the same things over and over and just nag nag and nag. After my exams I'm gonna apply for a job in the local club to be a bartender in the weekends, mainly because of the money but it would also be a great thing to do so I don't have to hang out with them that much.

I know this is so wrong because they've always been good to me (although if I really think about, just one person has been really good, the others actually didn't matter about certain stuff but o well). I had great times with them, but the feeling that they're bringing me down and certain situations with other people have made me more aware this just isn't working.

Is this so wrong or has anyone else experienced this too? If so what did you do about it.
 

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I have kept a solid core of 4-6 friends for a long time...however, theyre all fairly good with women tho

how i can relate is that i have associated less with some acqauintances (not real friends ) after seeing that they could hinder my pickup...


dropping a close group of friends would be difficult tho
 

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I only have two friends who i consider to be family and if a girl is put off by them then they can go screw themselves because those kind of girls aren't who i want to associate with anyway.
 

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I'd say yes, for all aged women, but probably more scrutinized by high school girls. Your friends can say a lot about you. Just another way for women to judge your "value".

-Scars
 

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Definitely. But they will judge you 100x more on how their own friends see and think of you.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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