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Do girls like when a guy looses control?

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I was at my 4th salsa dance lesson, doing fine, trying to concentrate on the steps. etc. Then I notice her body, her breasts, and start really getting into the motion of salsa. At one point my brain switches, I start thinking naughty thoughts. The whole dance falls apart. She burst out laughing, I laughed also. She knew exactly what I was thinking off. I think its alright, she will be flattered of her powers. Do girls like when guys loose their mind, i.e. animal instincts?
 

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iqqi said:
Without even reading your post, YES. :yes:
Thanks iqqi. Guess her burst out laughing tells me all I need to know. And it actually felt good to go there. Because it was true and the common laughter felt right. Salsa can be so sexy.
 

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iqqi a follow up question for you. Why do they like when a guy looses control? Do they feel in power? Is it sexy to them?

BTW are you a girl?
 

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I'll take this one to answer: they like it when guys loose control because they become animals. They are raw and unpredictable, uncontrollable. And women like to be in control.
Now don't go thinking that to be attractive you have to be a freak. But once in a while, when you stop acting robotic and really let yourself loose (which is what I think you meant by loosing control), she will see a part of you that she hasn't witnessed yet. And a confident, daring man is always attractive.
 

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She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

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regular_guy said:
I was at my 4th salsa dance lesson, doing fine, trying to concentrate on the steps. etc. Then I notice her body, her breasts, and start really getting into the motion of salsa. At one point my brain switches, I start thinking naughty thoughts. The whole dance falls apart. She burst out laughing, I laughed also. She knew exactly what I was thinking off. I think its alright, she will be flattered of her powers. Do girls like when guys loose their mind, i.e. animal instincts?
I think so. I would love it when one of my ex's lost a little control of her senses. I've always been one to enjoy hearing a little sigh when I kiss a woman.

I'm assuming it'd be similar from a woman's perspective. I think that sometimes if they're not in the mood, they wouldn't enjoy it (and I think women take longer to "switch on" than we guys can be, but... I still think that the women enjoy knowing their man is getting turned on. That is, iif they're attracted to you.

If they aren't (and therefore you're creepy, stupid or weird, THEN it's a different story. If you get turned on while dancing with someone who barely tolerates you, THEN it's just considered creepy.
 

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regular_guy said:
iqqi a follow up question for you. Why do they like when a guy looses control? Do they feel in power? Is it sexy to them?

BTW are you a girl?
It is the same as if the shoes were on the other foot. Or gender. Or whatever. If the situation was reversed, would you not feel "power" and "sexy" and what not?

And yes I is a girl.
 

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By loosing control I mean like something switches in your brain. Best I could describe it as switching to the lizard brain. Where you are blinded by her beauty and there is nothing going to stop you. You do not give a **** about, social norms, being political. It pure instinct. All you want is her. LOL, its called loosing control. wild passion!? dunno

Yeah I think this girl likes me. In the first class, she was showing interest. She asked me questions and was impressed with my movement on the floor. During the second class she remembered my name, I totally forgot hers. oops. Any who salsa is lots of fun! And a good way to lean how to lead a laddie with your body. BTW I am thinking of doing a salsa outing, maybe I will ask this girl to come. If I don't wimp out. We shall see how it goes. She may be older than me. Dunno.
 

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Next time you see her if she is giving you eyes and all giggly, say to her "when are you going to get up the nerve and just ask me out??".

You must be charming and confident when you say this. Feel free to make a suggestion of where she should take you.

"when are you going to get up the nerve and just ask me out?? there is this salsa club I wouldn't mind checking out...".
 

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Girls want you to dominate them in bed. That would be the best time to 'lose control', as you put it. Just let your instincts take over. She'll love you for the rest of her life.
 

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Do you like when a girl looses control? I guess this one's only true for bed :).

On another note, though..I'm sure the advice of loosing control might go wrong if applied by the wrong person. Im pretty sure I know a few guys who would take loosing control a bit too far and get into a situation where the chick found it nothing but embarrassing and wouldnt be turned on rather than put off by it (im talking in public)
 

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AlexTheGreat said:
I'll take this one to answer: they like it when guys loose control because they become animals. They are raw and unpredictable, uncontrollable. And women like to be in control.
Words to live by...
 

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AlexTheGreat said:
I'll take this one to answer: they like it when guys loose control because they become animals. They are raw and unpredictable, uncontrollable. And women like to be in control.
Wait, that doesn't make sense. They become uncontrollable, and women like to be in control, but they like it when we lose control, and... yea, that doesn't make sense.

Maybe you should've said "And women like to be taken over", or something similar.
 

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What everyone has to understand is that in THIS particualr context, yes, a woman like to see you make a fool of yourself ogling her and worshipping her, and letting her know that she is DESIREABLE.
To a woman, feeling desireable is better than almost anything else. It's the reason they wear sexy clothes and shoes even if they're not going out anywhere special. They just want to feel sexy. By seeing a guy practically fall over himself in admiration, a woman's ego is blown up in a huge way. In owoman ese, when a woman says "we want to be treated like Queens."
What they really are saying is "put us on the pedastal and worship us. I want that constant reassurance I am sexy and you drool over me."That's why women love to get attention from men, so they feel desireable. And by not reciprocating, they get the ego boost and no repercussions.

A woman will also feel something when a man fights for her, if he stands up for her, and protects and maintains her honor.
basically , in the right context, yes, a woman will not think negatively if you lose control in certain circumstances.

But for the most part, regarding, household issues, child raising issues, lifestyle events, things of that nature, then NO. Women NEED you to be "the Rock." One of the key main masculine traits that women need is a man who is not overly emotional, Who doesn't turn into a ball of mush and gush,. Very unappealing for a man, in a woman's eyes. Basically, if YOU cry more than SHE DOES, you're out. That kind of being out of control is not wanted, and not desireable.
The out of control like a wildman, is also not wanted. Why? because it scares women and makes them think that you're capable of being a batterer. They'll think you're capable of losing control and hitting her.
Remember, most women are small in stature, They have little tono physical prowess for defense (unless trianed, of course) so they are actually keenly aware of their fragility. This is why they look for a man to be the Rock, and a man that can protect her, A Man that can take care of her, make quick decisions, take them to safety, deliver them from danger, and always maintain her respect, maintain his honor and self respect.
This is partof the reason why women lose respect for men who are intimidated by women. They cannot fathom how Males can actually be "afraid" of women. It boggles their mind. Really, It does.
Even Napoleon Bonaparte had a quote like : "Here are soldiers with courage ready to fight to the death, yet they tremble with fear at the mere sight of a skirt."

You must be the rock that her waves of emotion crash on. This does not mean you do not have emotions. But you are not swayed by emotion into illogical, and unresponsible behavior.
 

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Ace of Flames said:
Wait, that doesn't make sense. They become uncontrollable, and women like to be in control, but they like it when we lose control, and... yea, that doesn't make sense.

Maybe you should've said "And women like to be taken over", or something similar.
What I meant was that when we lose control, we become raw, we return to a state of uncontrollable instinct. Women, who are most of the time in control and see you in control, feel you return to this nature that they cannot control. The challenge is killing them, and they love it.

They love the boldness that comes with this loss of control. Regular_guy, you said it yourself, you become animal, you don't care about social norms or anything. Hence, you finally act the way you want to, and you show your true colours. This is pure sexuality, pure confidence. That is what women love.
 

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Interceptor said:
But for the most part, regarding, household issues, child raising issues, lifestyle events, things of that nature, then NO. Women NEED you to be "the Rock." One of the key main masculine traits that women need is a man who is not overly emotional, Who doesn't turn into a ball of mush and gush,. Very unappealing for a man, in a woman's eyes. Basically, if YOU cry more than SHE DOES, you're out. That kind of being out of control is not wanted, and not desireable.
The out of control like a wildman, is also not wanted. Why? because it scares women and makes them think that you're capable of being a batterer. They'll think you're capable of losing control and hitting her.
Remember, most women are small in stature, They have little tono physical prowess for defense (unless trianed, of course) so they are actually keenly aware of their fragility. This is why they look for a man to be the Rock, and a man that can protect her, A Man that can take care of her, make quick decisions, take them to safety, deliver them from danger, and always maintain her respect, maintain his honor and self respect.
This is partof the reason why women lose respect for men who are intimidated by women. They cannot fathom how Males can actually be "afraid" of women. It boggles their mind. Really, It does.
Even Napoleon Bonaparte had a quote like : "Here are soldiers with courage ready to fight to the death, yet they tremble with fear at the mere sight of a skirt."

You must be the rock that her waves of emotion crash on. This does not mean you do not have emotions. But you are not swayed by emotion into illogical, and unresponsible behavior.
I agree completely with this part, but with the first part (which I removed from the quote), I think it's more the raw sexual power that impresses and attracts the woman than the guy being mesmerized by her. Caveman-style is quite powerful in the right circumstances.
 

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Caveman style never worked for me. Being a borderline rapist is NOT attractive.

I think you guys are forgetting all the sh!t you do before you go "caveman". That's why she LETS you go "caveman".

Ya get it?
 

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iqqi said:
I have alot of game. :cool:
you can go pick up girls with me anytime.

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She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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