Do any of you guys ever feel you need more in life?

[Darth]

I see no logic in deciding to be Christian and accepting the bible as truth.

So there's more logic in pretending that we're here by a series of incredible coincidences, and then somehow there was life and it somehow split into all the plants, all the animals, and humans too? And that still doesn't explain how life was created. The atheists try to dance around this one...


And BTW...THERE ARE HISTORICAL MISTAKES IN THE BIBLE. It was written down by men. Men are men. They make mistakes. Get over it.

 

[I'm Charming]

1. Sounds like the Old King James translation you're using there.
2. That's from the Book of John- not thought to be the most accurate source in terms of quotes. In fact the Book of John was written quite a bit later.
3. Jesus often spoke in metaphors, not literally. You're trying to take everything he said at face value. Doesn't work.
4. Thinking you are God is so against the religion it's not funny. There are many counterexamples.

I'm not going to get into theology here, but that is so out of context it's ridiculous, and it's not even from the best source. And to reject a whole religion on that basis is just stupid.

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At the end of the day, people can ALWAYS FIND REASONS NOT TO BELIEVE IN GOD if they want to. It's your choice. It always is....

And BTW, I hate it when people go how can you be so arrogant to thing that your religion is correct when there are 3 major religions with many followers?

Okay, one of them is Christianity. Check.

One of them is Judaism. Jews believe in the SAME GOD, and their Bible is actually identical to the Old Testament of the Christian Bible. Check.

And one of them is Islam. OK. They still believe in God (called Allah). Check. However, how many different people contributed to the Bible? Dozens. How many people contributed to the Qur'an? One. Muhammed. Who I personally think was full of sh!t.

Anyway, all three major religions agree on one thing- One God who is knowable.

1. Six and half a dozen what translation I'm using - it's still in there in one form or another.
2. You're basing your life on a book that is around 2000 years old, things have changed - many different interpretations have been made, the book has been skewed in different language interpretations, passages have been lost, and you're telling me the book you follow could be inaccurate. The whole scenario is the biggest game of chinese whispers ever, how can you verify that any of the quotes in this thread are accurate.
3. Christians and Jews take the impossible as literal all the time, there are many stories told that could never occur in reality and are obviously metaphors for how you should live your life that they assume are not stories but totally true. Also, you say I take 'everything' at face value, no my friend I take this one instance, there's not much you can scramble to come back with when your saviour says, and I quote;

I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Doesnt look much like a metaphor for me.

4. Exactly, this is why you so rush to condemn this opinion.

You also assume that religion must be correct due to numbers, but you cant verify the existence of anything purely by numbers of people that believe it could be real. Quite a number of people believe in Ghosts - that does not verify their existence.

Out of context? You've plowed into a topic promoting your organisation purely on the basis that someone wants something more in his life than women, what sort of presumption is that, you've also insulted other religions in your posts on top of your assumptions. God has obviously forbidden you people to have open minds.

 

[Darth]

I don't base my life on an 2000 year old book.

I base it on the ideas reflected in that book. And yes, more than just passages have been lost. Entire books were deleted by the Protestants just a few hundred years ago because they went against what they wanted to believe.

I don't want to turn this into a theological debate, and I'm sure I'm not the best person to answer this, but Jesus is not saying, literally, we are all Gods. He's saying that we are all CHILDREN of God. Therefore, we all have God in us. Thus we all reflect God. We are in the image of God.

And again. People will always find reasons not to believe in God. Suit yourself.

But it's pretty damned arrogant to dismiss it all as "impossible" while atheists believe something far more implausible, that we are here by coincidence.

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Anyway, to ElStud, good luck in everything. You obviously want more out of life, and that is great. Many people never realize this, and already at 18 you are beginning to. Girls, money, power, and friends are all great, but as you already realize, they can never make you truly happy in the long run on their own.

Good luck man.

 

[I'm Charming]

To clarify my position again, I'm an agnostic, so the whole Atheism vs Christianity battle going on here, to me is irrelevant. More specifically I'm a 'Strong agnostic' which means I don't think humanity can comprehend or determine the existence of a god or not.

Atheists believe not to believe, which is a strange system in itself and I'm not siding with anyone here. My own belief, which I thought I had made clear, is that organised religion tends to manipulate people on a general basis so if you feel religious you should let it be part of you on a personal basis and not as some controlling organisation.

Girls, money, power, and friends are all great

Not to be overly presumptions but I'd say it'd be hard for ElStud to come to this conclusion due to his apparent lack of the latter three.

 

[X-ecution]

I agree with Darth and Luke


Elstud, girls are great, but they do not make your life complete. What life would it be to base it all on getting your dtck wet with as many women as possible? doesn't sound like much of a life to me

Now if you live life to be the best you that you can be. the best you the God created you to be, then you will find true happiness. Knowing God.

Many People are foolish to believe that they can find "things" to maje them happy.

"man, if i just got more sex i'd be happy"

"man, if i just got more women to like me i'd be happy"

"man, if my ex hadn't dumped me i'd be happy"

Truth is, while things things might make you happy, they do not satisfy you. they do not make you feel complete. I should know, i have made major improvements in terms of game and positive female attention, but those things do not satisfy me. Often times females are nothing but alot of heartache and trouble. and while i love em to death, they can be kind of annoying sometimes. same with people in general

People cannot satisfy you, but God can. I am satisfied Knowing that i have a greater Goal in life than Just living in the Moment, and earthly things. Not because i am afraid of Dying, but because i know that God gave me life. it is a gift, and one that should be used for Good, not for my own selfish pleasure. and while i may slip up alot, i know that i can always get back on the right track.

I am happy just being the Person God made me to be. and i think you will too

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Think "Ye are gods" is taken out of context. You cant base a whole doctrine in one convoluted interpretation of a sentance in the scripture.

Just like Roman Catholics base their whole religion on Jesus saying to Peter, upon this Rock I build my church. But Jesus never made Peter a pope. If you read the book of Peter, Peter was a bishop, not a pope, there was never any pope in the early church.

Mormons will have lots of books apart from the bible and have occultic origins, yet they will really quote this statement from Jesus out of proportion to justify their whole belief. 'ye are gods'. Mormons believe god has a wife with planets, and that's how people will become too.

A true biblical interpretation has to be taken within the context of the verses and can not contradict another verse of scripture in the Bible, that's my rule. I don't think 'ye are gods' are literal in the context of that verse.

 

[Warrior74]

thread should be deleted.

 

[trd323]

Did not read all the posts. So, WOMEN will NEVER COMPLETELY FULFILL you. They are there to add to your life, but not to be your life. If you think getting a girlfriend will fix all your flaws and your life; then you are missing the point of a women. A women will love you only if you have a greater purpose. No One can tell you what your purpose is, You will have to find out what is it in your life you want the most(career, family, self-improvement, etc.) Notice that everything I listed is ALL ABOUT YOU and no one else.

 

[I'm Charming]

Luke, you're attempting to discredit my argument by way of association with what you see as the ridiculous - in this case - other religions. What a close minded attitude to have, so much for turning the other cheek. You believe that a man who was the son of god, turned water into wine, cured lepers and performed exorcism, yet you dismiss the interpretations of other religions as invalid because of their literal translation.

This 'pick n mix' attitude as to whether something is literal or not is the thing that discredits religion in my eyes, you say a man could perform acts against nature yet deny that he may have said we are gods or the sons of god.

It seems we should be basing an entire doctrine on our own selective attitudes, which completely annihilates the need for it anyway when we could just as well form our own opinions of life.

 

[daygameguy]

Well I'm going to college and there's a ton of girls and I've approached a few of them. But sometimes I just feel I need more! Like something is missing in my life. Like I need more than a woman to sastify me and I just need something more. I strive for a greater feeling, than I have now. Today I sit here about to go to college and I'm thinking "Well, sure college and girls are okay, but I need something more". Almost like I'm just not pumped for college. And overall, I need a greater feeling, I need something more than woman to sastify me.

After over 1400 posts, you are still asking for advice on how to get started in building a man's life. You are a waste of life. No friends, no skills, no girls, no brains, nothing.

You stupid azzhole, you need to let go of your ego that is built on your lame FRs, and get yourself a life!

I mean seriously, someone has to kick you in the balls.

 

[kingman]

I love religion threads..

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Luke, you're attempting to discredit my argument by way of association with what you see as the ridiculous - in this case - other religions. What a close minded attitude to have, so much for turning the other cheek.

Ok, so you are seeing that religious belief as ridiculous. I never actually said that in my post. I said that a whole religion may take one particular verse or statement entirely out of context to justify their whole beliefs. The Bible has to be read as a total book, using scripture to interpret scripture like a puzzle, not cherry picking one verse and basing a whole religion out of it.

You believe that a man who was the son of god, turned water into wine, cured lepers and performed exorcism, yet you dismiss the interpretations of other religions as invalid because of their literal translation.

In terms of the Bible, Jesus fulfills the law and the prophets in the Old Testament, and the New Testament explains further about who Jesus is in total consistency. In other words, I have no problem believing what is totally consistent with the word of God from A to Z. Isaiah 7:14, for example, prophecied a virgin birth. That's one of MANY. When Jesus says certain statements, and they are taken WAY out of context to the point of contradicting and even defeating the message in the Bible, then that's anothr story.

This 'pick n mix' attitude as to whether something is literal or not is the thing that discredits religion in my eyes, you say a man could perform acts against nature yet deny that he may have said we are gods or the sons of god.

I didn't deny that statement, however, I question the interpretation of that statement as being literal as it's not consistent with the Bible as a whole if it's interpreted that way. I go with the rationale that scripture interprets scripture. You have to find another verse in the Bible that goes into detail about that statement and what it means.

The only statement that contextualizes 'ye are gods', roots from Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, partaking of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and bringing sin and death into the world. The devil told Eve that if she ate of that fruit, they shall be comes as gods knowing good and evil. That seems to be a perjorative context because death came into the world after that. If Adam and Eve did not eat the fruit, they would be immortal, and would seem more 'god' than after eating the fruit where people now have a limited life-span. So, in that context, ye are gods could mean be referring to humanity's fallen nature and need to be saved.

If you have other statements in the Bible that could clarify more meaning into that, then I'm open minded to listen in that light. However, when humans interpret scripture to suit whatever they want to believe, then they will likely take on scripture out of context, stretch it beyond all rational parameters to make up some false doctrine.

 

[slickaz]

dude i dont care what you all say about Jesus Christ.
There is only one God, and getting there is the faith in Jesus.

OP:
Ive been in your situation, yeh its hard because life may just seem kind of heading no where and living for today and right now seems to futile.

here is my recomendation:
- Get to know God, He will guide you and a spiritual connection will show you there is a higher knowledgeable being that can guide you on your request.
- Get to know yourself, what you like, what you dislike.
- Pick up hobby/s
- Get real accountable friends
- Connect back with your parents, learn from them, because the only humans that know you best is the people that made you.
- Using your interests and your topics, research what career options will suit you. for example, i hate being behind a desk 8 hours a day, so i picked up consulting where i travel to client sites and im always on the move. i like presenting and wearing nice suits. this allows me to do that. but ive got a cousin that loves to fix peoples muscle problems (freaky) so hes a physio, i have a friend who loves to be bossy, yes, hes a cop.
- Stay busy.
- GET A MENTOR - read and understand how this person did what they did.
- Believe a motto - mine is "ill sleep when im dead"

I rekindled my relationship with Jesus, I now have a purpose and a relationship with a higher being.
I understood what i like and dislike and aligned myself to doing things i like, like my career.
I got friends that i can count on to keep me on point. like i have a trainer friend, that pushes me at the gym and health wise, i have an accountant friend that guides me financially when i need advice and friends that have their own places.
I have a mentor that i follow and i tackle situations with God and my knowledge of how this person got there.
and my Motto - makes me work harder than ever, but i play harder than anyone else i know..everything i do i put my full in and at the end of the day i feel like wow! i achieved something.

ps: i have 3 hobbies - MMA, mountain biking and kite surfing. it lets me fight the elements and push myself to the limits...

i guess as MAN we were not made to sit around and have everything prepacked. our forefathers chased and speared their dinners whereas we microwave it. and that fight to survive and the excitment of livin that wild life with free running and more relevant problems (like where to hunt today)is what we are made to face, not - my boss will fire me if i dont make these burgers, or what color shirt should i wear...

i always wonder if id enjoy it more living in the age old days where man hunted and ran free..

good luck anyway

 

[speakeasy]

To the original poster, you are only 18. Maybe you should do like many Australians do after high school. Go on a backpack adventure abroad. Broaden your horizons. It does wonders for you. Then come back and worry about school.

 

[backbreaker]

this thread pretty much sums up w
hy I dont' come here anymore.

on so many levels

 

[hell695]

one thing i no is that sometimes i feel its more forfilling to have a steady girl then different ones

 

[3countriesPlan]

crazy asian your post is crazy.. not bagging on you its just funny

 

[Mr.Positive]

To the original poster, you are only 18. Maybe you should do like many Australians do after high school. Go on a backpack adventure abroad. Broaden your horizons. It does wonders for you. Then come back and worry about school.

This is great advise. I did this, and it was a life changing experience for me. There's a whole world out there, that can't be experienced through the screen of a computer. To be a young guy, free as a bird, with nothing but a backpack and a world to see, women to meet, and countries to explore is one great way to appreciate life, and live the most of it..