"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Do any of you feel playing a role isn't worth it in the end?

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I know we are supposed to work to be our best in life. But do you ever find yourselves playing a role (even if it's partially or mostly true) and getting tired of it?

I've never played a role but it almost seems like that's more "respected" these days.

Do you ever find yourself playing a role and getting tired of it regardless of if it gets you chicks? Almost like it's not worth it in the end?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Unless you know who and what you are and why you are here, nothing is worth it.

Anything else is just a pointless distraction.
 

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"playing a role" is very vague. We aren't mind readers here. Do you have any examples?
 

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Yeah playing a role, acting a certain way just because you think it might get you chicks or because it does occassionally isn't worth it.

Much better to work on your beliefs and inner programming so you can express your real self.

I used to really play this role and wasn't comfortable with it, and 2-3 months into a relationship it would fall apart because my insecurities would come out and it would ruin it and they never lasted past 3 months.

But working on myself and becoming more 'me' they consistently last longer and are much better, with much less drama and bs.

The 'just be yourself' thing. Is more the 'yourself' without the insecurities and thinking you have to play a certain role to get something, having a strong identity and not always deferring to others.

Staying true to yourself sometimes upsets other people but they will respect you more for sticking to it. People playing a role and pretending will not have respect in the long term.
 
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When I started being indifferent with women a couple of months ago, it got emotionally tiresome. After a date proposal or a date itself, I would wait for them to contact. Sometimes it would take a couple days just to have a flake text. Those few days of no contact after what you thought was a good date were the worst. 80% of the time they will re-initiate contact with you so don't give up.

It's a good measure of interest and the ones with minimal are weeded out. Over time, you build a stronger character and no longer gets to you.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Naughty Ninja said:
I know we are supposed to work to be our best in life. But do you ever find yourselves playing a role (even if it's partially or mostly true) and getting tired of it?

I've never played a role but it almost seems like that's more "respected" these days.

Do you ever find yourself playing a role and getting tired of it regardless of if it gets you chicks? Almost like it's not worth it in the end?
Playing a role can get you more action, but what makes you happier is following Anti-Dumps philosophy.

Yeah you might get less women but the ones who stick around like you and what you do, not who you pretend to be or what you pretend to do.
 

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What role are you referring to? It should be something you enjoy.

Take exercise for example. I work out every day, but I do it because I enjoy it, not because someone said I should do it. I like how it makes me look and feel. I like proving to myself that I can go beyond my limits. That could be a 'role', but one I enjoy playing.
 

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I hate trying to fill in dead spots in the conversation. When you are with a guy friend or male family member you can be quiet for extended periods of time and its totally cool and accepted. Picture two men fishing if you don't get what I mean.

With women, I have to force myself to talk when I have nothing to say at that moment so her ADD hamster doesn't get uncomfortable and lose interest.
 

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ArcBound said:
Playing a role can get you more action, but what makes you happier is following Anti-Dumps philosophy.

Yeah you might get less women but the ones who stick around like you and what you do, not who you pretend to be or what you pretend to do.
+1 for anti dumps philosophy, solved 99% of my issues.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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To be honest using my hand is less hassle.

It's all a big Fvck up. I don't like making out with girls I don't have a "connection with".. But also that connection is not worth it.
 

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You can always "re-wire" your brain to be something that you want to be. Nature is always influencing who we become. For example, if there is a characteristic you want to improve on, the more you act and work on that characteristic, the more likely you will become that person.

So to say we are role playing or whatnot, we are really just working on who we want to become. And eventually it will become hardwired into your brain, a part of you self conscious if you will. The more you instill and try to attain this "character trait", "role playing" you will in time attain this trait. You have re-wired your brain. This is off topic, but human brains are very plastic, meaning it's very flexible and able to adjust or adapt.
 

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I care about people so not caring about chicks and getting laid a lot more now without ever getting hurt is bitter sweet
 

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Falcon said:
"playing a role" is very vague. We aren't mind readers here. Do you have any examples?

Dude I honestly I can't even remember why the hell I started this thread to begin with last night.

Most likely because I was at a friends house having drinks and doing shots of Tequila then when I got home the alcohol really hit me and I couldn't sleep so I just kept myself busy waiting for it to wear off.

I'm surprised I was actually able to type it in semi-coherent sentences. lol.


I'd guess I was thinking along the lines of you're expected to play some sort of "appealing" role these days to be "accepted". Almost like in the Facebook world. Everyone trying to brag or one up the next person, have some farce social proof etc. or else not being a sheep to nonsense you are somehow seen as the guy who isn't "with it". I've dropped that Flakebook nonsense a while ago and it's always been boring to me to be in pissing contests with insecure sheep who have some overwhelming need to be "cool". Like: Gotta have the latest iPhone, car, etc. to "wow" the rest of the sheep who will soon be tripping over themselves to one up you no matter how broke and in debt they are.

It seems like for most of society it's almost the norm these days.
 
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