DJ Spirituality & the Evolution of the AFC

[feelingloved]

I invite you to review the reality of of the dos-don'ts of DJ Spirituality with me, in this thread.
To encourage a good and relevant discussion, I have started the thread with the origin, and none the less most compelling topic, which brings most of us to this site. Your respected woman with another man.

http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi6806_inf.html
This is a marriage builders video on a logical approach to preventing an affair. Its weakness (and strength) is that its logical. (Do you think it would work?)

There's been a lot of discussion on this board about rationalizing/promoting seducing/attracting women who are already participating in an existing relationship with another man.

These are rationalized in several ways:

• all good/worthy HBs are with boyfriends.
• its the way of modern society, because we no longer have social controls to ensure situations of temptation are avoided.
• traditional bias against infidelity is gone; its expected.
• being cheated on is a sign of low value, cheating on a spouse is a sign of weakness; getting another person's spouse is a sign of value.
• some boyfriends/husbands are undeserving or under committed.
• the easiest way to emotionally get past being cheated on, is to play the role of the tyrant yourself as opposed to the victim.
• a female in a relationship is easier to seduce.
• the woman was going to cheat with someone anyways.
• its the way of the wolf pack, genetically natural, and damn exciting.

I'm sure you can point out some missing from the list. Do so.

The reasons for NOT encouraging an affair, are theoretically inspired.

• the risk of physical danger.
• relationships which start off as affairs, don't last.
• major religions condemn it.

Lets look at this from a practical point of view.
Put philosophy aside for a moment.
You do live with yourself and with the long-term outcome. Is it beneficial to you?

Concerning "stealing" a girlfriend, what is trying to be determined is, is it good or bad or neutral, long term.

1. Do you honestly feel neutral towards the topic, even months into your DJ evolution?
   
2. Do you reflect on your exploits? Are they really a source of pride, years later?
   
3. Did you get a rewarding relationship out of it?
   
4. Are the memories a source of strength & comfort to you? Be honest to us.
   
5. What does your real life experience translate into, for you, as best you can tell, in terms of actual lasting outcomes in the long run of your life?
   
6. How has your "karmic luck" been when perusing a #1 pro-seducing animalistic way of life vs the #2 pro-good-person philosophical path?
   
7. In the exact same scenarios, would you have done any of them differently, given the chance to?
   
8. Do you feel either path #1 or 2 has helped you?
   
9. I am trying to determine, from your point of view, which path the universe tends to reward. Luck, direct outcomes, confidence, and emptiness are all measurable senses. What is your take?

Lets look at this without being righteous and without condemning one another.

Thank you, for sharing your "real world" stories
, brothers.

 

[Joe The Homophobe]

I live a pretty normal life not much sinning I try to follow the 10 commandments as a simple guide to living my life. I don't drink, never smoked or done drugs. I rarely lie I am very honest because I believe in honesty and confident men, real men always tell the truth. I never intentionally harmed anyone. My only daily sin is thinking about women almost every couple minutes and wanting to make love to almost every beautiful gal I see on campus

I don't deny this is a sin, I know it is a sin and I know the Lord will judge me accordingly in the afterlife. I think it does help being honest with yourself and being honest with God in admitting your sins.

 

[feelingloved]

Your point of view is widely shared.
I want to leave God out of this thread, and talk about what real outcome are. Lets call it THE tangible outcomes, from us DJs, players & AFCs who accidentally end up with a girl who is already romantically connected.

I'm hoping we can leave out moral judgment, out of this thread, to encourage honesty.
thank you Joe!

 

[sav]

is it really stealing if what you are "stealing" wants to be stolen?

a girl a little while ago was hitting on me and i knew she had a boyfriend.... i never go for girls that are taken... i make my intentions clear, and that for them to be with me, they'll need to break out of their current situation...

i've been burned in the past by females that cheat on their boyfriends... believe me.. its not worth it in the long run.. and that is said from experience.. sure there will always be exceptions.. but its not realistic to view yourself as an exception.. you gotta be a realist..

 

[Joe The Homophobe]

boyfriends are just that, boy-FRIENDS. She is not nobody's wife, she is not nobody's property, she has not signed no documents or swore allegiance in the eyes of the Lord to that man.

It is fair game although I don't encourage it, like the kris kristofferson song "the best of all possible worlds" (there is still a lot of wine and lonely girls, in this best of all possible worlds). Plenty of lonely girls out there no need to take one from some poor joe.

 

[Last Man Standing]

Joe, I've been reading Makow - I just read this article by him A FEW MINUTRES AGO... http://www.rense.com/general79/mistake.htm

He is well aware of the hor/homo Matrix!!!! The deliberate order to destroy humanity - DEVILS!!!!!!

 

[Joe The Homophobe]

LMS, keep spreading the word my friend. We are fighting the good fight don't you ever forget it! You have an obligation to spread your knowledge.

 

[Last Man Standing]

LMS, keep spreading the word my friend. We are fighting the good fight don't you ever forget it! You have an obligation to spread your knowledge.

You are the one who introduced me to Makow a few years ago and I have been following him ever since!! Do you listen to Alex Jones - his radio/internet program? 24 hours a day - The truth is spoken... http://www.infowars.com/

 

[Joe The Homophobe]

You are the one who introduced me to Makow a few years ago and I have been following him ever since!! Do you listen to Alex Jones - his radio/internet program? 24 hours a day - The truth is spoken... http://www.infowars.com/

wow really? Knowing just 1 person has been reading that material thanks to me, and has been enlightened by it i'm sure makes me feel all that hard work paid off

I know of Alex. I've 'researched' that stuff for 10 years and please feel welcome to PM me if you want to talk about it. Although I rather encourage you to educate and promote rather than talk to me about it, which will only get you depressed at the sad state of affairs which is the truth of what's going on. We already got enough problems figuring out women don't we ha!

 

[feelingloved]

I'm aware of Rense, Makow & Jones. I've followed their works intensely for a decade, to the detriment of my relationships. Girls hate knowing about that stuff, and hate knowing your interested in it (from my experience). So I am weaning myself off it. I've done well more than my share for society. Its burned me out.

Thank you Sav, for your insight.

 

[ducaro]

This Makow chap is good. on-the-dot wisdom.

 

[feelingloved]

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