"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Uber noober

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Hi, my friend recently got a girl with some afc moves. He talked to her on the phone for 7 hours. I thought it was SUPER afc to chat with girls on the phone for hours. my friend was being really afc and telling her all of his little secrets. The girl liked him so much she fingered herself on the phone, twice.Wtf is this? How is it possible? Maybe it just shows that the dj techniques are more flexible than we (or I) thought.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Your only 15, so am I. Most guys at this age are afraid of girls. ANY move is better than none, no matter how AFC it is. Also girls at our age are extremely horny.... no joke.
 

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thats what my friends and I call a "freaky b!tch" lol. fingering herself on the phone, wow. tell him to not tell people about that if he doesn't want her hating him lol.
7 hours bro, thats not afc. thats pathetic.
7 horus WITH her is different..and if shes already fingering herself, hell. tlel him to stop it. thas like an aim-pimp...only phone-pimpin. gay. lol
 

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Phew, 7 hours. I usually work that long in a day haha. But props for the whole fingering deal. Do what works best for you. You shouldn't have to follow strict rules to get women, if that works best for you, then do it.
 

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Do you know if he actually HOOKED UP WITH THE GIRL AFTERWARDS or if it ended with the phone

Its a known rule that talking to girls on the phone is a nono so how he did it i do not know...
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Jerky Boi

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Originally posted by skumface
Its a known rule that talking to girls on the phone is a nono so how he did it i do not know...

I don't really agree. There was never any set rule about NOT talking to a girl on the phone. Everyone just has always said that it's better to limit your phone conversation with a girl the first couple of times you're talking to her and save the conversation until the dates. I agree with this for a number of reasons. 1. You don't make yourself seem soo available all the time. 2. You save some good conversation topics that you can use later on the date (w/ kino) and 3. It's generally just a better idea.

I can understand where he's coming from though. If she's 15, and you talk about anything remotely sexual on the phone, in person, wherever. I don't care, she's going to get horny.
 

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Exceptions, and sometimes these things happen reguarly, e.g get girls with AFC moves. You have to be pretty lucky, though, but here, we have a crazy girl, go for her. Fun/Happiness is prominent, so give it your all.

And yeah, I think the guy was suggesting that 7 hours of talking to a girl is a bit AFC. :p
Having a chat, is cool, but I know how these conversations go if they're long enough, and it just gets silly.

Just my 2 cents.
 

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Yes my friend went over to ehr house the next day and they hooked up. He said that she was wet and horny as ****.

I have another theory now...

I have been recently teaching him to be a donjuan and he has been using the techniques. Maybe he used a few dj moves
when they were talking on the phone. This leads me to beleive that girls are reallly really...'easy'.
Lolz n00bz
 

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Originally posted by Uber noober
Yes my friend went over to ehr house the next day and they hooked up. He said that she was wet and horny as ****.

I have another theory now...

I have been recently teaching him to be a donjuan and he has been using the techniques. Maybe he used a few dj moves
when they were talking on the phone. This leads me to beleive that girls are reallly really...'easy'.
Lolz n00bz
Girls ARE really easy. You just have to figure out how to trigger it. lol.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Originally posted by strams4ever
Also girls at our age are extremely horny.... no joke.

psh tell me about it. three girls i know, incoming freshman ( a grade below me) have complained about having their virginity. COMPLAINED about it. i laughed and said until they quit being so easy they're gonna have that virginity for a long time.
 

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Originally posted by Jerky Boi
I don't really agree. There was never any set rule about NOT talking to a girl on the phone. Everyone just has always said that it's better to limit your phone conversation with a girl the first couple of times you're talking to her and save the conversation until the dates. I agree with this for a number of reasons. 1. You don't make yourself seem soo available all the time. 2. You save some good conversation topics that you can use later on the date (w/ kino) and 3. It's generally just a better idea.

I can understand where he's coming from though. If she's 15, and you talk about anything remotely sexual on the phone, in person, wherever. I don't care, she's going to get horny.
thats wrong...Anti-Dump said "20 minutes." And 20 minutes is usually good for me...enough to set things up and chat a bit.
But the rest you said is right...saving the conversation for dates.

I was just saying there was a "Cult Rule" on the limit...

But christ SEVEN HOURS? When I was a huge afc I NEVER talked to a girl for over a hour. christ what a fag that kid is.
 

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Originally posted by Uber noober
Hi, my friend recently got a girl with some afc moves. He talked to her on the phone for 7 hours. I thought it was SUPER afc to chat with girls on the phone for hours. my friend was being really afc and telling her all of his little secrets. The girl liked him so much she fingered herself on the phone, twice.Wtf is this? How is it possible? Maybe it just shows that the dj techniques are more flexible than we (or I) thought.
1. Has your friend ****ed her?

2. My friend says some of the most AFC **** in the world, constant compliments, etc. Yet he gets unbelievable amounts of *****. He only says those things because he thinks chicks like it. Why does he still get gash? Because of how he thinks of himself. If a girl gives him **** of flakes he's outa there. He gives them good **** and he expects it in return.

He's willing to walk away. That + chicks find him really attractive, which might be the case with your friend? Or maybe the girls isn't so attractive?

Just some thoughts.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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