"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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DJ Bible vs. Seduction Science vs. Double Your Dating vs. etc.?

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How does the DJ Bible compare to the likes of Seduction Science, Double Your Dating, The System (Dating Dictionary), Advanced Macking, Conversation King, How to be a Ladykiller, (if I left any out feel free to let us know some more)?

Which one would be better to read? The only one I finished so far is Double Your Dating so I can't really compare them. How do these stack up against the DJ Bible?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I'm Joe Dirt

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Most if not all of the "systems" and techniques are based loosley on pop psychology - often with the authors not even knowing that their techniques and observations are based on certain psychological principles (that if one studied the principles they'd see that these tricks aren't really magic or secrets, but easily derived from science). They all "work" to some extent, as they are all based on helping the reader understand what other people want or desire in certain situations and thus how to give them what they want.

Of course there is tons of different combinations or possibilites for putting pop psychology to work, hence all kinds of different systems are born. That doesn't mean one is necessarily more effective or better than others.

As you can probably see from the thread I started on pop psychology, I think the best way to go about stuff is just go straight to the source and learn about how people think and can be manipulated straight from the source and then use that to come up with whatever system works for you.
 

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Be like Bruce Lee. Don't follow one school, use the best of them all to create your own style that works for you. I think everything you need to know can be found through the free resources such as SoSuave (DJ Bible and forums) and ASF.
 

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Originally posted by HereToImprove
... I think everything you need to know can be found through the free resources such as SoSuave (DJ Bible and forums) and ASF.
Not really...
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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A lot of these books have thing in common like "Eye Contact"

But some things are different like "Expressing your feelings"

I personally prefer David D. and his Double your Dating 'emails' but i read www.sosuave.com articles too!

Once youve learned to mack a lot... you DO start to make up your own style. Oh yeah, and as my bro says... every girl is different (esp. shy girls) so its really up to you how you act!

BUT we can all agree that being 'wussy' or 'AFC' is a nono!
 

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Originally posted by bluelemond
Then where?
In the resources that aren't free. Find one that fits your personality/character and learn from it. Build your own DJ persona and THEN incorporate what you learn in the forums into your DJ style. That's the only way that I've found truly authentic DJs and not just guys pretending to be by relying on tricks and tactics.
 
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