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Guys, what about a single mom that has been divorced for about a year?

Met her about 2 months ago, didn't go after her.. just kept it casual. About a week ago, she is showing a lot of interest in me. Giving attention, being curious about me, talking about relationships.. Now i kept a distance, cause she's 5 years older then me (27y) and has a child.. I have experience with older women, but not with this kind of situation. She does eventually want a long term relationship, and isn't really a sort of girl for a fvck-buddy. I have been spinning more plates.. so that's no problem. Just want a opinion on this.
btw.. she's hot

note: In the society where i live, they see divorced women as something evil.. as if there's some curse on them. This could also lead to problems, with people around you if you eventually got a relationship.
 

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F-buddy fine.

But only an AFC would cuckold for a slvt and her bastards. The reason why she is interested is because she is desperate. The reason why she is desperate is because most other guys know better than to use her for anything more than a cvmdump.

Your society is right. Divorced women ARE evil. They obviously make poor decisions in life and made poor wives.
 
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wayword said:
The reason why she is interested is because she is desperate. The reason why she is desperate is because most other guys know better than to use her for anything more than a cvmdump.
There's no doubt that she's desperate.. but that about the other guys, i would say that a lot of other guys are intimidated by her looks. As far i can know, she hasn't been with any other guy, after the divorce. She is not a *****, but her problem is that she has low self-esteem or she might be acting that she has.

Anyone else?
 

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If she is HOT then you need to get wise about WHY the other guy did not stick around. Usually HOT women have underdeveloped characters. They rely on their looks to attact a guy .
In my experience ,divorced women with young children want a new partner for two reasons -
A. To provide them with fawning affection and a lot of money.......or
b. To provide them with money and a lot of fawning affection.

They are also the most self-centered women on the planet. Listen out for the girly "Sob Stories " (like how it was all HIS fault and all that shyte- and then run )
Good hunting.
 

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jophil28 said:
If she is HOT then you need to get wise about WHY the other guy did not stick around. Usually HOT women have underdeveloped characters. They rely on their looks to attact a guy .
In my experience ,divorced women with young children want a new partner for two reasons -
A. To provide them with fawning affection and a lot of money.......or
b. To provide them with money and a lot of fawning affection.

They are also the most self-centered women on the planet. Listen out for the girly "Sob Stories " (like how it was all HIS fault and all that shyte- and then run )
Good hunting.
Bingo! Bango! This is the perfect retort to why men should not date/get in an LTR with a divorced bird with bags.

Good show!
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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While I would say you are crazy for considering a 27 year old woman with two kids when you are only 22 yourself (can you not see the craziness in this?), I don't completely agree with the above posts. Just because a woman is divorced does not mean she was a poor wife - that's faulty logic. One of my brothers ran off from his wife simply because he wanted to party and did not like married life. I'll admit his wife was way more sane than him. She has two kids, and is dating a divorced dad who is older than her - see, there are some occasions where divorced dad + divorced mom work as they are both in the same situation and both benefit. She did make a poor decision in marrying my brother. BUT back to YOUR post, there is something wrong with your confidence and why you'd consider such a scenario... I would try to figure out why if I were you.
 

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Let me start by saying that you are only 22. CRAZY to get into a serious relationship with a mother with children at this stage of your life.

All that said:

An "older" woman (from a mature men perspective) is a woman that is OVER 35 years old AND is OVER 5 years your senior.

A 27 year old woman is a young woman that is in her prime. However, as I said...she is 27 and has a child. Best thing for YOU (as a 22 year old man) is to have her as a FWB. Keeping in mind that you might end up hurting the kid if the child gets attached to you.
 

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wayword said:
F-buddy fine.

But only an AFC would cuckold for a slvt and her bastards. The reason why she is interested is because she is desperate. The reason why she is desperate is because most other guys know better than to use her for anything more than a cvmdump.

Your society is right. Divorced women ARE evil. They obviously make poor decisions in life and made poor wives.
Come on wayword. NO every woman that is divorced is evil.

We have to look deeper into the reasons of why the divorce took place.

Maybe the guy was abusive (sure, she made a bad decision...but so does a man that marries a slut). Or maybe the guy did something stupid that landed him in jail and she decided to divorce him. Or maybe the guy simply left her because he wanted to be involved with another woman. Or maybe he cheated and she left him. Or maybe he started experimenting with drugs or illegal stuff and she decided to leave him.

Those things are not a reason to call a woman a "*****" or a "poor wife". Maybe she made a poor decision. But a LOT of men make poor decisions when they peak a slut/reformed slut for a wife and end up divorcing them. And those are MEN that should be the more reasonable of the sexes!

If he was over 35 and understood the consequences and responsibilities of getting involved with a 27 year old with a child...then that's his issue.

However, he is ONLY 22 and the advice (IMO) should be to stay away from a relationship. Even if she did NOT have any children or if she was NEVER married.
 

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blueguy said:
She did make a poor decision in marrying my brother.
Latinoman said:
sure, she made a bad decision
BINGO.

I should have said made poor life decisions OR poor wives, though..
 

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Quit trolling the mature man forum, flaco.

5 year older woman, with a kid? You must seriously be hard up for a lay.

Do you HONESTLY think a 27 year old woman with a kid is hotter than, I don't know, women YOUR AGE?!!!

She wants a little boy toy to grovel at her feet and come running at her every beckon call. :kick:

Oh yeah, she'll be super nice to you... and waste years and years of your life and time. You are, to her, nothing more than a "port in the storm" or "pleasant distraction" until "Mr. (Single Dad) Right" comes along to have something "meaningful". Suddenly, her super nice self will turn into "everything is wrong" Ms. Fighty-pants, and you'll be out the door.

She'll insist that her boy toy be "faithful" and fux only her, too. Pull your head out of your ass.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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wayword, you're coming across very mysogynistic in your posts here. You're gonna be a long time searching for a girl that has never been in a bad relationship. Can you even say that about yourself, i.e. that you never dated a girl that was a total *****?
Always better to hope for the best but expect the worse...than vice-versa. I really think men these days really have to go in prepared for the worst-case scenario...and if it's only half that bad - then great! You were over-prepared and now it's cake! Last thing you want is to come in UNDER-PREPARED, though!

But I don't hate WOMEN, I just hate BYCHES! :rockon: It just happens that most women ARE byches...whenever given the opportunity.

And yes, I've gotten with some byches...but there's not much options in this feminist society and I also didn't MARRY any of them.

Whereas, a lot of women will marry more readily because they figure worst-case - they can always no-fault divorce the guy and take half his loot. Therefore, they may be far less selective because they always have a "golden parachute" out and a line of Captain Save-A-Ho's waiting for them..
 

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wayword has a good point about the marriage thing as the man GENERALLY is the one losing in a divorce (or even by getting married).
 

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The fact you posted [about her] explicates you're AFC side. Ask yourself what a DJ would have done?

A DJ would have either decided it either wasn't worth it and walked ... OR ... recognized she's a single mommy with a decent body and just nailed it a few times because that's what he does. Notice, that was past tense. He never would have started thinking, rationalizing or even posting because he would recognize immediately the only positive outcome involving intimacy would be without feelings or attachment.

Right?

Therefore, my prediction is that you will get attached to this single mommy because you're already invested enough to ask and of course you slipped in a "She's Hot" (hint: That's a rationalization/justification).

Then again, a great way to get jarred out of the AFC matrix is to fall for a "Hot" older single mommy, be her beta man and then allow her to shred you a year or two later (as the other posters have already mentioned) after she hooks up with someone "better" and then vanishes on you.

Like the old knight says in Indian Jones III "Choose Wisely" :)
 

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Now guys first i have to say, that i had no intention to start a relationship with her! I posted here because i've never been in such a sitation, and was curious about the views of the more experienced men on this board.
Latinoman said:
Let me start by saying that you are only 22. CRAZY to get into a serious relationship with a mother with children at this stage of your life.

All that said:

An "older" woman (from a mature men perspective) is a woman that is OVER 35 years old AND is OVER 5 years your senior.

A 27 year old woman is a young woman that is in her prime. However, as I said...she is 27 and has a child. Best thing for YOU (as a 22 year old man) is to have her as a FWB. Keeping in mind that you might end up hurting the kid if the child gets attached to you.
Actually i meant that she was older then me, to say older women i would think women past their 40y. Now if there was no kid involved, and she was just divorced.. i wouldn't have had any doubt about fvcking her. And in this situation, there's no chance that i would think about a relationship. The only reason would be if i was in my 30s and wanted a LTR.

From her viewpoint, the reason of the divorce was that she married too young(18y) didn't knew what she wanted. And ofcourse, the guy could be abusive.. but the fact remain that she made a poor choice, otherwise she wouldn't be divorced. You shouldn't judge a women by her status (single,divorced etc), taken in mind that she was divorced and had a kid.. i thought why not learn something from this. I judge women by their actions, and what i respected about her was that she was honest from the moment that i met her and so was i when saying that i'm not in a place in my life for an relationship. Then her face went :( ..that's also why i think that the f-buddy thing would work out well.


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Do you HONESTLY think a 27 year old woman with a kid is hotter than, I don't know, women YOUR AGE?!!!
Yes, not all women ofcourse.. but the women i meet lately, she is! Now i didn't treat her different then any other women.

Oh yeah, she'll be super nice to you... and waste years and years of your life and time. You are, to her, nothing more than a "port in the storm" or "pleasant distraction" until "Mr. (Single Dad) Right" comes along to have something "meaningful". Suddenly, her super nice self will turn into "everything is wrong" Ms. Fighty-pants, and you'll be out the door.
As much as i hate to admit it, but you're right! But then again, i never thought about a relationship with her. In her words i could sense that she was.

She'll insist that her boy toy be "faithful" and fux only her, too. Pull your head out of your ass.
So you're also a boy toy with your f-buddy(s)? I would only be a boy toy if the fvcking was on her terms, and if i kept crawling back! Pvssy doesn't control me:)
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The fact you posted [about her] explicates you're AFC side. Ask yourself what a DJ would have done?
Some truth there.. Now i first asked myself what would a mature men do. I said to myself, he would be honest about his intentions and would let her games get into his head.

A DJ would have either decided it either wasn't worth it and walked ... OR ... recognized she's a single mommy with a decent body and just nailed it a few times because that's what he does.
The problem was my conscience/moral obligations.. Something felt wrong cause she had a kid. That why i posted on here, to see how the others think about it. Slvts are no problem, or girls that have only the intention for sex. I have the same thing with nice girls, something just stops me for using them for sex and i know from experience that girls can be hornier then guys.

the only positive outcome involving intimacy would be without feelings or attachment.
golden! :up:

Then again, a great way to get jarred out of the AFC matrix is to fall for a "Hot" older single mommy, be her beta man and then allow her to shred you a year or two later (as the other posters have already mentioned) after she hooks up with someone "better" and then vanishes on you.
Don't agree with you on this one. They can be great for unexperienced guy, to learn some moves. But to fall out of the AFC matrix you don't need a women. You only have to change the way you think and interact with women, and the best is not starting a relationship or get attached to a women.
Latinoman, how do you handle single moms (the same as any women)? And when is it okey to start a relationship with a single mom?


Now my point was, that divorced women aren't evil or something. The same as a divorced men, hell most of them are 100x better then they were in the marriage. People make mistakes, DON'T judge them on their past mistakes but to their actions in the present! Prejudices are a sign of weakness and AFC men do this!

A real men has an open mind and always is searching for new experiences, and then he makes HIS decisions based on HIS experiences!
 

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Then her face went ..that's also why i think that the f-buddy thing would work out well.
Why would a 27-year-old DIVORCEE with TWO children would want a relationship with a 22 year old man (unless you are WEALTHY)?

This is a CLEAR indication that this woman makes poor decisions. She made them at 18 and she is making them NOW (regardless if she has kids). A clear indication of lack of self esteem.

A woman in her predicament should be seeking a relationship (assuming that's what she wants) with a more mature man. Considering that she has TWO children and they should be her number 1 priority. And WHOEVER marries her (or gets involves in a ltr with her) should take that into account and the fact that he should take some level of responsibility (as an example) for those kids too.

Sorry, but you are too young to be in this predicament.
 

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Ok, this is the "mature man" forum. Problems we have here are "YOUNGER single mommy" problems because women older than us are... uh... gross? 27? That's fine for someone like, 40.

See, my MFB is 29, I'm 31. See the difference? Boy toy? No. See, you don't understand value.

22? You belong in the HS forum or general discussion with this lame, AFC crap.

"Duh... hey guys, I'm wanna bang a 27 y.0. single mommy. She's HOT! What do you think?"

This is how you get called a troll. Fine. Bang her. What do you want from us? A cookie and two thumbs up? Do whatever you want, but don't come around here asking for our blessing to do bone a chick that you know we won't think is worth a second look from you. That's called trolling.

Now, had you posted in the right place, you might have gotten different responses like "Hell yeah! Knock the bottom out of that azz! Older chicks really know how to fux!"

Women, kids, hell, why even have different forums?
 

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Vulpine said:
Ok, this is the "mature man" forum. Problems we have here are "YOUNGER single mommy" problems because women older than us are... uh... gross? 27? That's fine for someone like, 40.

See, my MFB is 29, I'm 31. See the difference? Boy toy? No. See, you don't understand value.

22? You belong in the HS forum or general discussion with this lame, AFC crap.

"Duh... hey guys, I'm wanna bang a 27 y.0. single mommy. She's HOT! What do you think?"

This is how you get called a troll. Fine. Bang her. What do you want from us? A cookie and two thumbs up? Do whatever you want, but don't come around here asking for our blessing to do bone a chick that you know we won't think is worth a second look from you. That's called trolling.

Now, had you posted in the right place, you might have gotten different responses like "Hell yeah! Knock the bottom out of that azz! Older chicks really know how to fux!"

Women, kids, hell, why even have different forums?
I did make a poor decision, and that is posting here. I thought some of you guys were more mature! I bet you haven't even read my response. If i wanted that kind of responses then i would have posted on the HS or General discussion. Me being younger doesn't mean, that i can't post on here.

Now i had to search what a troll is:

In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others.

Did i cause disruption with inflammatory,insulting or off-topic discussion. Don't think so;).

I wanted some some insight, and i got it. Latinoman, thanks!
 

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"I'm 22 and want to bang a 27 y.o. single mother" is, actually, inflammatory.

If you don't see that, than you have an unhealthy sense of self-worth, period.

Furthermore, you can't see it yet, and this is precisely why you don't belong in the "mature man" forum. You just aren't wise enough, don't have the same views, haven't "been there, done yet". Oh yeah, you're headstrong and bulletproof right now, perhaps even "smart". But in about 10 years, you'll be an entirely different person.

Next time, try a search for "older single mother" or even "divorced woman".
 

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