"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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A girl recently said to me, 'I've been disappointed so many times'. This was with reference to men in her past.

I have my own ideas about what she meant by this, but I'm interested to see what others think. If some are even brave enough, maybe you can think of real world examples of how you have disappointed women before.

[This is a discussion topic, not an opportunity to air our dirty laundry. If we could avoid the obvious slander about female entitlement etc. that'd be fckn great.]
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Guys broke her heart : cheating, immaturity, guy wasnt in love, he didnt act like a boyfriend etc...

She had standards and hope that weren't meet.
It jaded her
 

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i dissapointed my first EX by being too jealous and I agree. we both failed but I saw problems on my side.

My next relationships were ended probably because I wasnt boyfriend enough. I just wanted sex and they withdrawed at some point


(PS two relationships they said stop when there was someone else)
 

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For some context. Parents divorced when she was 5. Father is a playboy who freely admits to having girlfriends in every city. Still calls her every day. Mother doesn't really get much of a mention at all. She doesn't strike me as one who has someone at the top of the high score list. More unfulfilled, in a manner of speaking.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Not enough romantic gestures, not freely introducing her to friends and family.
 

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A girl recently said to me, 'I've been disappointed so many times'. This was with reference to men in her past.

I have my own ideas about what she meant by this, but I'm interested to see what others think. If some are even brave enough, maybe you can think of real world examples of how you have disappointed women before.

[This is a discussion topic, not an opportunity to air our dirty laundry. If we could avoid the obvious slander about female entitlement etc. that'd be fckn great.]
Did you ask her for examples?

-Augustus-
 

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A girl recently said to me, 'I've been disappointed so many times'. This was with reference to men in her past.

I have my own ideas about what she meant by this, but I'm interested to see what others think. If some are even brave enough, maybe you can think of real world examples of how you have disappointed women before.

[This is a discussion topic, not an opportunity to air our dirty laundry. If we could avoid the obvious slander about female entitlement etc. that'd be fckn great.]
She is looking for a meaningful relationship.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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She actually said to me on our second date that I shouldn't put pressure on her. Girls will tell us what to do. We just have to listen. It's so easy when you know how.
yeah pressuring is bad. its not like they get wet when you ask them to :D

problem is when their bodies want it and you can see it by the body signals etc that they are ready but they still refuse
 

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yeah pressuring is bad. its not like they get wet when you ask them to :D

problem is when their bodies want it and you can see it by the body signals etc that they are ready but they still refuse
Yeah I wasn't pressuring. I think it was a preemptive twitch on her part, probably from previous 'disappointments'. She's clearly had many orbiters and weaklings in her time. The first date, we were in a bar and there was a table of guys sat opposite who were blatantly staring at us all night; to the point where she commented on it a couple of times. She's a fun girl, the type you can actually hang out with. Probably a solid 8/10, maybe higher when she grows in to herself a bit more. Far and away the best prospect of the year so far.

Third date she came to my place, got hot and heavy, but was wrong time of the month. All that mess is not something either wants for the first time round, not with a quality bird anyway. Round four next week.
But the woman with a bit of self-control is..... quality!
The tension between us was unreal and I can tell she wants to submit physically. Waiting a while with a quality birds brings different rewards than do ONS's.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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She wanted the Disney Fairytale Princess Life.

She got reality.
 

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It means she is a pump and dump.

When they tell you this, they are warning you of the red flags that will follow. Keep your eyes open and you'll find them and hopefully be the next on the pump and dump list of disappointments.

Either that or she has a liking for trashy guys to begin with and attracts men that treat her like crap.
 

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I believe her trust comes first that she trusts that you will be a man to her... and not so much a fear of you fcking other girls.
I think underneath they for the most part know we like puzzy lol
When she told me about her playboy father, I joked that he could teach me a thing or two and she gave me the international gesture of 'I'm watching you'.

I'm now understanding that you can basically get away with all sorts, within reason, even gushy sh!t, so long as you maintain emotional independence. Along with a bit of charisma, I'm pretty that's the whole game in a nutshell.
 

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She actually said to me on our second date that I shouldn't put pressure on her.
"OK, no pressure. But I can date and sleep with other girls at the same time, right?"

A girl recently said to me, 'I've been disappointed so many times'. This was with reference to men in her past.
That means she thought she had the men in her pocket and she didn't.

I have my own ideas about what she meant by this, but I'm interested to see what others think. If some are even brave enough, maybe you can think of real world examples of how you have disappointed women before.
My ex told me this. She wanted to get married and I put conditions that she didn't agree to and she wrote a long angry email, the subject was "I am so disappointed."

We are back together now because she has agreed to the conditions in theory.
 

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"OK, no pressure. But I can date and sleep with other girls at the same time, right?"



That means she thought she had the men in her pocket and she didn't.



My ex told me this. She wanted to get married and I put conditions that she didn't agree to and she wrote a long angry email, the subject was "I am so disappointed."

We are back together now because she has agreed to the conditions in theory.
What conditions?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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