"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Disappointed with myself

lansing

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First, please don't post with "don't date co-workers," that's not the advice I'm looking for.

I've been getting to know this chick at work pretty well. I've been really hesitant on asking this chick out, not sure why, probably because I like what we have going on now, but I know it would only get better. This morning when I woke up I could just tell I was in the zone. Everything was perfect. That's when I said to myself, I'll ask her out today. So I get to work, and she starts a few hours later. I see her come in, she waves and whatever, and then I walked away. A while later I see her, and I go talk to her. We make small talk, and I tell her to come find me before she leaves. I thought, well this is going awesome, I'll ask her out then. Well she does come find me, even though I was kind of hiding, to see if she would bother. And I don't freaking do anything. When she left, I was so angry...I just wanted to go home. But I knew that she knew what I wanted to do and that I failed. And she came back, just before I was leaving. She was talking to some people, and once I left, she followed me out. I was about 20 steps ahead of her, and I didn't stop, say hey, nothing. I just went to my car and drove off.

So now instead of beating myself up over it and getting down, I decided to see what I did wrong, why I couldn't ask her, and how I can tomorrow when I see her. But I just dont know how to. I wish I could just walk up to her and ask, and I probably could, but there's something holding me back. Ive never had this before, so I'm completely lost. If anyone has any tips at all, please let me know. I was thinking of just putting my number in her coat pocket as a backup plan, in case I just cant ask her again tomorrow. I think she would understand if I did that, its just the way she is.

Thanks for ANY help I get.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Now, I'm new to this site, but I don't think anyone will disagree with this statement: this is a game you get better at with experience.

"Experience is a harsh teacher. First comes the test, then comes the lesson."

You got cold feet. But you know what? The worst thing you can do is beat yourself up over it. Right now, to maximize your learning, you want to be in a constructive state of mind.

Things are still looking good for you, from where I'm standing. It sounds like she was into you!

My advice to you is to try to make up for the seeming lack of confidence, though, and take her aside the very next chance you get. Ask. Her. Out.

(I strongly recommend not 'planting' your number on her. Creep-o-riffic.)

Good luck!
 

MisterMcGee

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Yup, you gotta be bold the next tme you see her to make up for the 'shy guy' impression you're currently making.
And trust me, it works.
 

DonJuan11

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lansing said:
I've been getting to know this chick at work pretty well. I've been really hesitant on asking this chick out, not sure why, probably because I like what we have going on now, but I know it would only get better. This morning when I woke up I could just tell I was in the zone. Everything was perfect. That's when I said to myself, I'll ask her out today. So I get to work, and she starts a few hours later. I see her come in, she waves and whatever, and then I walked away. A while later I see her, and I go talk to her. We make small talk, and I tell her to come find me before she leaves.

Translation: I want to test your interest level by telling you to come find me. If you don't come find me, my ego remains steady since I'll think you didn't have time or couldn't find me because I was away from my desk. If you do come find me, my ego rises through the roof. So either way, my male ego is safe and I don't risk anything by telling you that.

You tell her to come find you? Not good. Why would she do that? What's in it for her? Are you that good looking that she has to, or will you give her some money? If you want to ask her out, you find her when you have to.


I thought, well this is going awesome, I'll ask her out then. Well she does come find me, even though I was kind of hiding, to see if she would bother.

Point just made above. Male ego is not hurt.


So now instead of beating myself up over it and getting down, I decided to see what I did wrong, why I couldn't ask her, and how I can tomorrow when I see her. But I just dont know how to. I wish I could just walk up to her and ask, and I probably could, but there's something holding me back.

See above. The male is ego is a fragile thing. "I can't ask her, if I ask her and she rejects me harshly, my ego won't be able to handle that rejection so I'll just play it safe and never know if she likes me. It's more important for me to play if safe and stay at home on Saturday night than hurt my ego that I so dearly love.

Ive never had this before, so I'm completely lost. If anyone has any tips at all, please let me know. I was thinking of just putting my number in her coat pocket as a backup plan, in case I just cant ask her again tomorrow. I think she would understand if I did that, its just the way she is.

Thanks for ANY help I get.

Your problem is you don't have a reason for asking her. Why do you want to take her out? Where do you want to take her? What do you have in common? Do you only want to take her because she looks like Angelina or kisses like Sharon? If you had some hobbies and good friends, you wouldn't even be nervous.

"Hey ----. I know this great place around the corner where we could get some coffee. Perhaps afterwards I could take you to the salsa class where we could enjoy a few dances together."

(1) You told her you like her indirectly
(2) You have something to do with her, not just imagining her naked
(3) She is going to have fun with you
 

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Halloween said:
Now, I'm new to this site, but I don't think anyone will disagree with this statement: this is a game you get better at with experience.

"Experience is a harsh teacher. First comes the test, then comes the lesson."

You got cold feet. But you know what? The worst thing you can do is beat yourself up over it. Right now, to maximize your learning, you want to be in a constructive state of mind.

Things are still looking good for you, from where I'm standing. It sounds like she was into you!

My advice to you is to try to make up for the seeming lack of confidence, though, and take her aside the very next chance you get. Ask. Her. Out.

(I strongly recommend not 'planting' your number on her. Creep-o-riffic.)

Good luck!
Haha yea, the planting number was just weird.

DonJuan11 said:
Your problem is you don't have a reason for asking her. Why do you want to take her out? Where do you want to take her? What do you have in common? Do you only want to take her because she looks like Angelina or kisses like Sharon? If you had some hobbies and good friends, you wouldn't even be nervous.

"Hey ----. I know this great place around the corner where we could get some coffee. Perhaps afterwards I could take you to the salsa class where we could enjoy a few dances together."

(1) You told her you like her indirectly
(2) You have something to do with her, not just imagining her naked
(3) She is going to have fun with you
I got to be pretty good friends with her best friend, and she always liked to talk about this girl. So I figured why not? Take her out, I like her we go again, if not, well too bad.


Thanks for the help guys, lets just hope it goes over better today.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Lansing, this is typical 'Failure to Deploy".

You rational mind/Ego could not afford to take such a hit if you didnt get what you wanted. You didnt want to 'fail'. You didnt want to take that pain.
And you also tried to avoid any potential future awkwardness between the two of you.

SO it was a multitude of things.


You werent sure of what you wanted.
You werent sure of how to approach and interact with her.
You didnt want to fail.
You were kind of intimidated by her.
You were a littel overwhelmed by your feelings for her.
You doubted your ability too.
YOu didnt want to create any sort of workplace awkwardness.
If you didnt get what you wanted , you didnt want to have a reputation of being the creepy guy at work.

A multitude of things.

So you have some inner game issues you have to address.

This is quite a bit of stuff in your mind, sub conscious and body.

You need to deal with the issues of WHY you feel those things.

It's the only way.

"Why am I embarassed?"

"Why do I feel uncomfortable with my desire, or my sexuality, or her sexuality?"

"Why do I feel uncomfortable just lettign it all hang out with her, and just enjoying her company and she will just know that Im into her??? Why cant I just relax and enjoy this???!"

"I know my reputation is important to me. But how much control do I really have over my coworkers? Theyre going to believe whatever, it's up to me to stay true to my self, and stay confident, self assured, secure, and stick to my values and keep my self respect, and dignity. No matter what."


Self acceptance is the first step to Self Love and Self Forgiveness.

Once we start the ball rolling we begin to experience 'being comfortable in our own skin', which is the BASE level of communication we send to women on a sub level, which lets them know you are comfortable with yourself, thus, them, thus, sexuality.

Believe it or not, 'being comfortable in your own skin', is related to the level of SENSUALITY you are connected to.
And women dont know how to logically explain this feeling, and why theyre attracted to you.
But it is that.
If you are OPEN to Sensuality, they see you differently, and sense something different about you, which helps to arouse them and open them up to you.

The Key word here is being OPEN.
And the others are being comfortable with sensuality, thus intimacy, thus physical intimacy as the precursor.

You subcommunicate these things wether you realize it or not.

You must understand how women are wired.
And they are wired to RESPOND to a Man who is 'comfortable in his own skin'.
And if you demonstrate Leadership,Decisiveness,and a take charge demeanor, women simply cannot HELP being attracted to you.
Granted, understand this does not GUARANTEE Interest, but you do begin the arousal process, and curiosity sets in tremendously.


You need to do a lot of inner work.
Free yourself from disempowering thoughts, and the social programming that castrates men, and makes them passive eunuchs.
There is a wave of emasculating thought forms out there.
So dont go entirely bashing yourself for it.
Part of it is not your fault.

But to move forward, is to gather Information, be Informed, so you can make Decisions with ACCURATE THINKING.

Accurate Thinking based on unwavering values, and laws that are beyond and not contrived social norms, and programming, and thought control are the key to your freedom.


Be the Decisive man.
Be the Leader.
Take Charge.
KNOW what you want.
Dont expect too much of intial interactions with women.
Instead give women a sense of your non judgemental self, a free man, free thinking, who is comfortable with himself, and comfortable with his desire, his sexuality, and also....a woman's sexuality. This is actually crucial.

Interact in a manner in which you demonstrate your SELF, not trying to TAKE from her. It is a strange undertone in the interaction which she will feel when you communcate this. When you depend so much on some random stranger female for gettign what you want from her, it kills the interaction and any attraction.
YOu cant look at this as trying to GET from her.
YOu have to look at it more as "Im attracted to you. But Im attracted to a lot of women. And Im interested in finding out more about you. There is no pressure here.
And if this goes well, I'll consider continuing interacting with you. If you dont want me, that is fine. Because I understand that you dont owe me anything, we just met. And Im not desperate. I dont need female validation. Im not starved for female attention. And while Im sexually attracted to you , Im not going to sacrifice my dignity or self respect for your attention, especially if youre not reciprocating. Ultimately, Im just revealing WHO I am to you, and YOU make the decision if you want more, if you DO then you'll let me know, and then, since Im already attracted to you too, I willl take the lead and see where this goes...."

It seems complicated.
But what it really is is being well socially calibrated. And having Strong Personal Boundaries.
Being confident in your interaction with her. KNow that its ok to be atracted to her, and move along to the steps of the attraction process between a man and a woman.
But the key thing here is not to be desperate. To be confident with or without her. Understand that you DONT NEED this particular woman. And operate from this kind of mind set.
Continual DEEP interactions with women will begin to put your 'radio frequency' closer and closer to the frequency women are 'listening' for.
Thats why some men never appear on a woman's radar. And some men are on a whole lot of women's radars.
Find that frequency and dont be afraid to be there with her...

Women are programmed too. They also grw up with false notions about life, romance, and men in partcular.

This is why there is a notion among women about Men 'freeing' them, liberating them, deflowering them, exploring them, exposing them, devouring and ravishing them....

You need to get your own house in order and begin to see outside a lot of these crazy social conditioning programs that are neutering men.

Then you can begin to interact with women on a more open, and free level.
Remember:

Women want MEN to ESCALATE.
If you are uncomfortable with that, you cannot keep their attraction, and thus, no interest level.
Reconnect to your Masculine Instincts.
Do not apologize for who you are.
NEVER apologize for BEING A MAN.
NEVER allow yourself to be SHAMED for being a Man, and desiring what you desire.
And be comfortable with being more and more and more DIRECT with women, without all the tip toeing around her to make sure you dont upset her, or scare her off, or make her angry or disappointed. Women hate that.
They want respect. Not for a guy to be terrified of her.
It makes her feel EXTREMELY uncomfortable. And there cannnot be ANY sexual attraction there when she feels so uncomfortable with you.
 

scottfall

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Interceptor said:
Lansing, this is typical 'Failure to Deploy".

You rational mind/Ego could not afford to take such a hit if you didnt get what you wanted. You didnt want to 'fail'. You didnt want to take that pain.
And you also tried to avoid any potential future awkwardness between the two of you.

SO it was a multitude of things.


You werent sure of what you wanted.
You werent sure of how to approach and interact with her.
You didnt want to fail.
You were kind of intimidated by her.
You were a littel overwhelmed by your feelings for her.
You doubted your ability too.
YOu didnt want to create any sort of workplace awkwardness.
If you didnt get what you wanted , you didnt want to have a reputation of being the creepy guy at work.

A multitude of things.

So you have some inner game issues you have to address.

This is quite a bit of stuff in your mind, sub conscious and body.

You need to deal with the issues of WHY you feel those things.

It's the only way.

"Why am I embarassed?"

"Why do I feel uncomfortable with my desire, or my sexuality, or her sexuality?"

"Why do I feel uncomfortable just lettign it all hang out with her, and just enjoying her company and she will just know that Im into her??? Why cant I just relax and enjoy this???!"

"I know my reputation is important to me. But how much control do I really have over my coworkers? Theyre going to believe whatever, it's up to me to stay true to my self, and stay confident, self assured, secure, and stick to my values and keep my self respect, and dignity. No matter what."


Self acceptance is the first step to Self Love and Self Forgiveness.

Once we start the ball rolling we begin to experience 'being comfortable in our own skin', which is the BASE level of communication we send to women on a sub level, which lets them know you are comfortable with yourself, thus, them, thus, sexuality.

Believe it or not, 'being comfortable in your own skin', is related to the level of SENSUALITY you are connected to.
And women dont know how to logically explain this feeling, and why theyre attracted to you.
But it is that.
If you are OPEN to Sensuality, they see you differently, and sense something different about you, which helps to arouse them and open them up to you.

The Key word here is being OPEN.
And the others are being comfortable with sensuality, thus intimacy, thus physical intimacy as the precursor.

You subcommunicate these things wether you realize it or not.

You must understand how women are wired.
And they are wired to RESPOND to a Man who is 'comfortable in his own skin'.
And if you demonstrate Leadership,Decisiveness,and a take charge demeanor, women simply cannot HELP being attracted to you.
Granted, understand this does not GUARANTEE Interest, but you do begin the arousal process, and curiosity sets in tremendously.


You need to do a lot of inner work.
Free yourself from disempowering thoughts, and the social programming that castrates men, and makes them passive eunuchs.
There is a wave of emasculating thought forms out there.
So dont go entirely bashing yourself for it.
Part of it is not your fault.

But to move forward, is to gather Information, be Informed, so you can make Decisions with ACCURATE THINKING.

Accurate Thinking based on unwavering values, and laws that are beyond and not contrived social norms, and programming, and thought control are the key to your freedom.


Be the Decisive man.
Be the Leader.
Take Charge.
KNOW what you want.
Dont expect too much of intial interactions with women.
Instead give women a sense of your non judgemental self, a free man, free thinking, who is comfortable with himself, and comfortable with his desire, his sexuality, and also....a woman's sexuality. This is actually crucial.

Interact in a manner in which you demonstrate your SELF, not trying to TAKE from her. It is a strange undertone in the interaction which she will feel when you communcate this. When you depend so much on some random stranger female for gettign what you want from her, it kills the interaction and any attraction.
YOu cant look at this as trying to GET from her.
YOu have to look at it more as "Im attracted to you. But Im attracted to a lot of women. And Im interested in finding out more about you. There is no pressure here.
And if this goes well, I'll consider continuing interacting with you. If you dont want me, that is fine. Because I understand that you dont owe me anything, we just met. And Im not desperate. I dont need female validation. Im not starved for female attention. And while Im sexually attracted to you , Im not going to sacrifice my dignity or self respect for your attention, especially if youre not reciprocating. Ultimately, Im just revealing WHO I am to you, and YOU make the decision if you want more, if you DO then you'll let me know, and then, since Im already attracted to you too, I willl take the lead and see where this goes...."

It seems complicated.
But what it really is is being well socially calibrated. And having Strong Personal Boundaries.
Being confident in your interaction with her. KNow that its ok to be atracted to her, and move along to the steps of the attraction process between a man and a woman.
But the key thing here is not to be desperate. To be confident with or without her. Understand that you DONT NEED this particular woman. And operate from this kind of mind set.
Continual DEEP interactions with women will begin to put your 'radio frequency' closer and closer to the frequency women are 'listening' for.
Thats why some men never appear on a woman's radar. And some men are on a whole lot of women's radars.
Find that frequency and dont be afraid to be there with her...

Women are programmed too. They also grw up with false notions about life, romance, and men in partcular.

This is why there is a notion among women about Men 'freeing' them, liberating them, deflowering them, exploring them, exposing them, devouring and ravishing them....

You need to get your own house in order and begin to see outside a lot of these crazy social conditioning programs that are neutering men.

Then you can begin to interact with women on a more open, and free level.
Remember:

Women want MEN to ESCALATE.
If you are uncomfortable with that, you cannot keep their attraction, and thus, no interest level.
Reconnect to your Masculine Instincts.
Do not apologize for who you are.
NEVER apologize for BEING A MAN.
NEVER allow yourself to be SHAMED for being a Man, and desiring what you desire.
And be comfortable with being more and more and more DIRECT with women, without all the tip toeing around her to make sure you dont upset her, or scare her off, or make her angry or disappointed. Women hate that.
They want respect. Not for a guy to be terrified of her.
It makes her feel EXTREMELY uncomfortable. And there cannnot be ANY sexual attraction there when she feels so uncomfortable with you.
Great post. Its called "manning up" for a reason.
 

Lexington

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I was in your same situation just a few months ago. You just have to keep working at it. Sometimes the only way to succeed is to fail a few times. You learn a lot more from failure than you do from success.

So embrace this as a part of the learning experience. You just have to keep at it and things will get better.
 

lansing

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Interceptor said:
Lansing, this is typical 'Failure to Deploy".

You rational mind/Ego could not afford to take such a hit if you didnt get what you wanted. You didnt want to 'fail'. You didnt want to take that pain.
And you also tried to avoid any potential future awkwardness between the two of you.

I have a pretty big ego thanks to a "rumour" that went around school recently, so it can afford to take a hit or two. I am not afraid to fail, I have failed before and I felt awesome after because I just went for it.

SO it was a multitude of things.


You werent sure of what you wanted.
You werent sure of how to approach and interact with her.
I think this is it right here, once I get the ball rolling with her, it seems that I just cant ask her then. So Im going to have to do something different
You didnt want to fail.
You were kind of intimidated by her.
You were a littel overwhelmed by your feelings for her.
You doubted your ability too.
YOu didnt want to create any sort of workplace awkwardness.
If you didnt get what you wanted , you didnt want to have a reputation of being the creepy guy at work.



A multitude of things.

So you have some inner game issues you have to address.

This is quite a bit of stuff in your mind, sub conscious and body.

You need to deal with the issues of WHY you feel those things.

It's the only way.

"Why am I embarassed?"

"Why do I feel uncomfortable with my desire, or my sexuality, or her sexuality?"

"Why do I feel uncomfortable just lettign it all hang out with her, and just enjoying her company and she will just know that Im into her??? Why cant I just relax and enjoy this???!"

She knows I am into her, and it takes me a while to "settle down" but eventually it will get to where I can ask her. But I dont want to wait everytime.

"I know my reputation is important to me. But how much control do I really have over my coworkers? Theyre going to believe whatever, it's up to me to stay true to my self, and stay confident, self assured, secure, and stick to my values and keep my self respect, and dignity. No matter what."


Self acceptance is the first step to Self Love and Self Forgiveness.

Once we start the ball rolling we begin to experience 'being comfortable in our own skin', which is the BASE level of communication we send to women on a sub level, which lets them know you are comfortable with yourself, thus, them, thus, sexuality.

Believe it or not, 'being comfortable in your own skin', is related to the level of SENSUALITY you are connected to.
And women dont know how to logically explain this feeling, and why theyre attracted to you.
But it is that.
If you are OPEN to Sensuality, they see you differently, and sense something different about you, which helps to arouse them and open them up to you.

The Key word here is being OPEN.
And the others are being comfortable with sensuality, thus intimacy, thus physical intimacy as the precursor.

You subcommunicate these things wether you realize it or not.

You must understand how women are wired.
And they are wired to RESPOND to a Man who is 'comfortable in his own skin'.
And if you demonstrate Leadership,Decisiveness,and a take charge demeanor, women simply cannot HELP being attracted to you.
Granted, understand this does not GUARANTEE Interest, but you do begin the arousal process, and curiosity sets in tremendously.


You need to do a lot of inner work.
Free yourself from disempowering thoughts, and the social programming that castrates men, and makes them passive eunuchs.
There is a wave of emasculating thought forms out there.
So dont go entirely bashing yourself for it.
Part of it is not your fault.

But to move forward, is to gather Information, be Informed, so you can make Decisions with ACCURATE THINKING.

Accurate Thinking based on unwavering values, and laws that are beyond and not contrived social norms, and programming, and thought control are the key to your freedom.


Be the Decisive man.
Be the Leader.
Take Charge.
KNOW what you want.
Dont expect too much of intial interactions with women.
Instead give women a sense of your non judgemental self, a free man, free thinking, who is comfortable with himself, and comfortable with his desire, his sexuality, and also....a woman's sexuality. This is actually crucial.

Interact in a manner in which you demonstrate your SELF, not trying to TAKE from her. It is a strange undertone in the interaction which she will feel when you communcate this. When you depend so much on some random stranger female for gettign what you want from her, it kills the interaction and any attraction.
YOu cant look at this as trying to GET from her.
YOu have to look at it more as "Im attracted to you. But Im attracted to a lot of women. And Im interested in finding out more about you. There is no pressure here.
And if this goes well, I'll consider continuing interacting with you. If you dont want me, that is fine. Because I understand that you dont owe me anything, we just met. And Im not desperate. I dont need female validation. Im not starved for female attention. And while Im sexually attracted to you , Im not going to sacrifice my dignity or self respect for your attention, especially if youre not reciprocating. Ultimately, Im just revealing WHO I am to you, and YOU make the decision if you want more, if you DO then you'll let me know, and then, since Im already attracted to you too, I willl take the lead and see where this goes...."

Its the last part that I am stuck on. I look back on how I interact with her, and its seems to me that I am putting out that "Im not desperate, but I would like to take it to the next level with you" vibe, but maybe she's not seeing it that way.

It seems complicated.
But what it really is is being well socially calibrated. And having Strong Personal Boundaries.
Being confident in your interaction with her. KNow that its ok to be atracted to her, and move along to the steps of the attraction process between a man and a woman.
But the key thing here is not to be desperate. To be confident with or without her. Understand that you DONT NEED this particular woman. And operate from this kind of mind set.
Continual DEEP interactions with women will begin to put your 'radio frequency' closer and closer to the frequency women are 'listening' for.
Thats why some men never appear on a woman's radar. And some men are on a whole lot of women's radars.
Find that frequency and dont be afraid to be there with her...

I think I am getting closer to that mindset they are looking for.

Women are programmed too. They also grw up with false notions about life, romance, and men in partcular.

This is why there is a notion among women about Men 'freeing' them, liberating them, deflowering them, exploring them, exposing them, devouring and ravishing them....

You need to get your own house in order and begin to see outside a lot of these crazy social conditioning programs that are neutering men.

Then you can begin to interact with women on a more open, and free level.
Remember:

Women want MEN to ESCALATE.
If you are uncomfortable with that, you cannot keep their attraction, and thus, no interest level.

(Her friend told me that she usually "likes" a new guy every week or so, and we have been "friends" for almost a month now, so that is a good sign that I can keep her interest level high.)

Reconnect to your Masculine Instincts.
Do not apologize for who you are.
NEVER apologize for BEING A MAN.
NEVER allow yourself to be SHAMED for being a Man, and desiring what you desire.
And be comfortable with being more and more and more DIRECT with women, without all the tip toeing around her to make sure you dont upset her, or scare her off, or make her angry or disappointed. Women hate that.
They want respect. Not for a guy to be terrified of her.
It makes her feel EXTREMELY uncomfortable. And there cannnot be ANY sexual attraction there when she feels so uncomfortable with you.

Thanks a lot for that post. It really nailed it right on the head on most of the things going on with me.

I talked to her again today quite a bit actually, and I got her number. Im going to call her pretty soon, lets hope it goes well.
 

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Well that didnt go exactly as planned. When I got her number yesterday I asked her "text or call" and she said text. I was like whatever, I hate texting but I want her to be comfortable. And when I gave her a compliment on her hair or something, my first compliment to her ever, she was all shy and whatnot. And when I got her number, I put her name as Ms. Awesome, like Im pretty sure that is a dead give away that I want something more since my name at work is Awesome, and she still gives me her number. So I have her number, Im 100% sure she likes me, giggly, friendly, goes out of her way to see/talk to me. When we were hanging out today, I was showing her respect, but I was not being kiss ass to her, I think I was actually kind of mean. But she fails to mention she has a boyfriend. She is going away with her family for a while, and she doesnt know how long. I told her we should do something when she gets back. Here's the convo:

Me: Hey there its --------
Her:Hey whats up?
Me:Not too much, christmas shopping. So when do you leave?
Her:Tomorrow
Me:Oh, when do you get back?
Her:Not sure yet
Me:We should do something when you get back.
(2 hours later)
Me:Im going to take that as a no then?
Her:Oh sorry forgot to reply. well I have a boyfriend.
Me:Alright well, its up to you then.

I mean I am glad that I finally manned up and went for it, and maybe the boyfriend thing is an excuse. Her friend never mentioned it to me, and she noticed that we were getting close. Hopefully it was just something going onat the time, or she didnt want to do this before she left, who knows.

And interceptor, thats probably the best post Ive read in a while, it really helped a lot. So thanks again.
 
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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