Dirty Talk

[BeExcellent]

Yeah, they were all "good lovers" yet they are no where to be found today lol

Actually they try and orbit. My ex husband has made it very clear he'd want me back in a heartbeat. Hopefully he finds himself a girlfriend soon, lol. The other guy I mentioned I've known 27 years. He jokes that we will end up together (and men never are entirely joking along those lines.)

If you don't think sex is important to women you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Who am I to correct you? You'll end up with just such a woman, one who can take or leave sex, and that has it's own set of issues many stymied men can describe for you. You can always wash, rinse & repeat ad infinitum.

I will NOT be in relationship with a man who isn't amazing in bed. I've been that way since day one and I've made no bones about that being my top criteria (but in no way at all my only criteria.) I've ditched very rich men because they had habits or behaviors that indicated they were going to be duds in the sack. Men who were brusque, pushy, without nuance or who had little charm/personality or were terrible at kissing. That's part of why I have dated/married/LTR'd players. Players are charming and understand women well and have enough sexual veracity to be good or great lovers. They are accustomed to beautiful women, they are "over it" or DGAF and yet they realize something good when they encounter it. They are willing to engage after the initial courtship and allow emotional intimacy, for emotional intimacy is what most players seek after a while but cannot find.

Because what makes a "good lover" is highly subjective. You might be shocked to learn this but all women are not the same lol.

I've been considered a "good lover" to enough women just doing things my way.

Agreed. And I'm sure you have been told that. The fact that women are NOT all the same is precisely why I'm discussing this topic. I have plenty of close girlfriends and sisters to know that there is very wide variation among women. Different hang-ups, different turn-ons, different expectations. I do know some women who are ambivalent about sex, but none of the happily married ones fall into that category. Women who don't appreciate sex are those most likely to end up alone. Men should pick women who DO like sex. Then everybody's happy. My point is that communication between lovers is important. Without it you cannot build an intimate connection. Without an intimate connection you cannot get to off the hook amazing.

 

[Urbanyst]

Actually they try and orbit. My ex husband has made it very clear he'd want me back in a heartbeat. Hopefully he finds himself a girlfriend soon, lol. The other guy I mentioned I've known 27 years. He jokes that we will end up together (and men never are entirely joking along those lines.)

Yet you don't want to get back with them. So clearly the "good sex" wasn't enough. Case closed.

If you don't think sex is important to women you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Who am I to correct you? You'll end up with just such a woman, one who can take or leave sex, and that has it's own set of issues many stymied men can describe for you. You can always wash, rinse & repeat ad infinitum.

I will NOT be in relationship with a man who isn't amazing in bed. I've been that way since day one and I've made no bones about that being my top criteria (but in no way at all my only criteria.) I've ditched very rich men because they had habits or behaviors that indicated they were going to be duds in the sack. Men who were brusque, pushy, without nuance or who had little charm/personality or were terrible at kissing. That's part of why I have dated/married/LTR'd players. Players are charming and understand women well and have enough sexual veracity to be good or great lovers. They are accustomed to beautiful women, they are "over it" or DGAF and yet they realize something good when they encounter it. They are willing to engage after the initial courtship and allow emotional intimacy, for emotional intimacy is what most players seek after a while but cannot find.

Well you had several men who are GREAT in bed and you are no longer with them. So clearly nothing pleases you. Maybe you're the problem lol.

Agreed. And I'm sure you have been told that. The fact that women are NOT all the same is precisely why I'm discussing this topic. I have plenty of close girlfriends and sisters to know that there is very wide variation among women. Different hang-ups, different turn-ons, different expectations. I do know some women who are ambivalent about sex, but none of the happily married ones fall into that category. Women who don't appreciate sex are those most likely to end up alone. Men should pick women who DO like sex. Then everybody's happy. My point is that communication between lovers is important. Without it you cannot build an intimate connection. Without an intimate connection you cannot get to off the hook amazing.

You can like sex without being a wh0re.

A woman who likes sex and has STRONG attraction for her men will enjoy sex with her man and submit to her man and not tell him how to imitated some Ex boyfriend or husband who f*cked her earlier.

 

[BeExcellent]

Yet you don't want to get back with them. So clearly the "good sex" wasn't enough. Case closed.

Total straw man argument. You don't want to be with an ugly woman who is amazing in bed either or a beautiful woman who then gains 100 lbs., let's be honest here...So you have other standards she has to meet just like I do.

People have criteria. You do, I do, we all do. I find it funny you want to go round with me about my criteria. You have your own as well to be sure.

Why do you think learning about your lover and what she may like or enjoy is "imitation"? Couldn't she say the same about whatever blow job technique you enjoy? I mean its your anatomy, shouldn't she please you in a way that you prefer? Why are you so resistant to that idea where women are concerned? That is how to be good in bed 101. Unless you really don't care about your lovers (which is the impression I am getting) because you already know everything. OK. Got it.

 

[btownbuck2012]

*Cracks fingers*

Let me take a stab at this.

My favorites are:

"Does that feel good"

"Tell me what feels good"

She usually reponds "Your d*ck" - this is very hot to me for some reason

"You feel so good"

"Where do you want it" - I love involving women in deciding where I'm going to finish.

This is basic stuff and nothing too complicated. It's great hearing the woman you're with, especially if she's your GF or LTR, answer these questions during sex. Very hot, imo. But it doesn't have to be anything complicated or so dirty you don't feel comfortable with it.

 

[Urbanyst]

Total straw man argument. You don't want to be with an ugly woman who is amazing in bed either or a beautiful woman who then gains 100 lbs., let's be honest here...So you have other standards she has to meet just like I do.

People have criteria. You do, I do, we all do. I find it funny you want to go round with me about my criteria. You have your own as well to be sure.

Sure.. but I don't go on constantly about all these "amazing" women I've dated and how I have so many HIGH QUALITY women chasing me that I have to beat them off with a stick... yet some how.. some way.. I'm still single. Nope. I don't do that.

Why do you think learning about your lover and what she may like or enjoy is "imitation"?

Never said that. I said I'm open to suggestions in bed but I don't want a damn instruction manual. That's a turn off and makes me think you're a wh0re.

Couldn't she say the same about whatever blow job technique you enjoy? I mean its your anatomy, shouldn't she please you in a way that you prefer? Why are you so resistant to that idea where women are concerned? That is how to be good in bed 101. Unless you really don't care about your lovers (which is the impression I am getting) because you already know everything. OK. Got it.

Why does this get under your skin so much? Do I remind you of an Ex who pounded you his own way and left later?

There is a big difference between giving suggestions in bed and giving a detailed instruction manual with chapters. I don't know why that's so hard to understand.

Clearly you have written a big fat textbook called "How to get BeExcellent to squirt" and you feel like I'm calling you a wh0re for documenting your many decades of riding c0ck lol.

 

[BeExcellent]

Why does this get under your skin so much?

Because it's a misguided viewpoint that might impede someone else's ability to enjoy an experience with their partner. You are basically saying you are only able to communicate in one way and you additionally are judgemental about the way someone communicates with you. That is not a stance that fosters understanding but suit yourself.
It doesn't affect me personally one iota.

Never said that.

You have said several times on this thread the following:

submit to her man and not tell him how to imitated some Ex boyfriend or husband

So you equate a woman telling you how to please her as "...how to imitate some Ex boyfriend or husband" and you find that somehow offensive. Just using your own words here.

Clearly you have written a big fat textbook called "How to get BeExcellent to squirt"

I have not. However I have had years of satisfying sexual relations with a few long term partners including a husband with whom I was involved for the better part of 20 years. You become great lovers through communication. Dirty talk is a piece of that. So is learning in detail your partner's anatomy, preferences
and psyche. So yes I am experienced and know what I'm talking about. Have you managed to have a year long relationship yet with anyone?

and you feel like I'm calling you a wh0re for documenting your many decades of riding c0ck lol.

You have not called me any names that I've seen. Why would I think that? You are projecting. I don't feel the way you characterize things at all. I find your line of reasoning rather defensive. I'm merely trying to understand why you appear resistant to open communication regarding sex and sexual satisfaction. Such an attitude shoots you in the foot in the long run. I mean it's your foot, so carry on by all means.

 

[Urbanyst]

Because it's a misguided viewpoint that might impede someone else's ability to enjoy an experience with their partner. You are basically saying you are only able to communicate in one way and you additionally are judgemental about the way someone communicates with you. That is not a stance that fosters understanding but suit yourself.
It doesn't affect me personally one iota.

Read this line until it registers:

I'm open to suggestions in bed, but NOT an instruction manual.

I prefer submissive women over more dominant women. Again.. suggestions are welcome such as: "Faster! Slower! Hit me harder! Lets try this position!"

Since for some reason you can't understand where I'm coming from.. its very much like telling a chef how to cook his own menu. You don't tell a man how to f*ck you. What nerve. Telling a man how to f*ck you is basically telling a man how to be a man. You are supposed to just take it in and experience the man. Experience his authenticity and bedroom personality. Like when you experience the food from a chef. You just f*cking eat it. You don't tell him how to prepare it. You offer suggestions at best (extra cheese, more pepper). You NEVER tell a chef to prepare his food similar to another chef.

If you don't like his food you don't eat at his restaurant again. Simple. But you don't tell a chef how to be a chef.

I'll also say that if you can't be submissive in the bedroom you are not a real woman as far as I'm concerned.

I have not. However I have had years of satisfying sexual relations with a few long term partners including a husband with whom I was involved for the better part of 20 years. You become great lovers through communication. Dirty talk is a piece of that. So is learning in detail your partner's anatomy, preferences
and psyche. So yes I am experienced and know what I'm talking about. Have you managed to have a year long relationship yet with anyone?

How many men have you slept with? Lol.

You have not called me any names that I've seen. Why would I think that? You are projecting. I don't feel the way you characterize things at all. I find your line of reasoning rather defensive. I'm merely trying to understand why you appear resistant to open communication regarding sex and sexual satisfaction. Such an attitude shoots you in the foot in the long run. I mean it's your foot, so carry on by all means.

I'm not resistant to open communication. You just suck at reading comprehension.

 

[BeExcellent]

Read this line until it registers:

I'm open to suggestions in bed, but NOT an instruction manual.

I prefer submissive women over more dominant women. Again.. suggestions are welcome such as: "Faster! Slower! Hit me harder! Lets try this position!"

Since for some reason you can't understand where I'm coming from.. its very much like telling a chef how to cook his own menu. You don't tell a man how to f*ck you. What nerve. Telling a man how to f*ck you is basically telling a man how to be a man. You are supposed to just take it in and experience the man. Experience his authenticity and bedroom personality. Like when you experience the food from a chef. You just f*cking eat it. You don't tell him how to prepare it. You offer suggestions at best (extra cheese, more pepper). You NEVER tell a chef to prepare his food similar to another chef.

If you don't like his food you don't eat at his restaurant again. Simple. But you don't tell a chef how to be a chef.

I'll also say that if you can't be submissive in the bedroom you are not a real woman as far as I'm concerned.




How many men have to slept with? Lol.




I'm not resistant to open communication. You just suck at reading comprehension.

Sigh. There are occasionally things that faster/slower/more less or whatever other "suggestions" you are willing to hear do not cover.

Please feel welcome to have the last word.

 

[Urbanyst]

Sigh. There are occasionally things that faster/slower/more less or whatever other "suggestions" you are willing to hear do not cover.

Please feel welcome to have the last word.

Sure, I'll take the last word for kicks.

You don't tell a chef how to cook his own menu BeExcellent. Either you like his food or you don't. You can suggest small changes. But you don't dictate the menu. Just experience the food. It was made with love. Stop nagging and eat your food.

Sorry you have learn this at such an advanced age.

 

[Roober]

oh my... Feel like I have needed some popcorn today. This place is entertaining. =D

 

[MrJack]

oh my... Feel like I have needed some popcorn today. This place is entertaining. =D

I'm glad I could create such great entertainment lol

Thank you for the replies everyone! Lots of good input here time to put it to use.

 

[sazc]

@Urbanyst if you were smashing me and I said "I love the amazing feel of your hot c0ck in my wet pvssy.....harder, faster, pulllease!"

Is that instructional to you? Suggestive, as in suggesting what to do?

I always thought " taking dirty" was classified more along the lines of a (dirty) running commentary, but you seem to have a different definition.

 

[Macaframalama]

Some dudes just can't handle a woman confident in her sexuality. It's hard enough to find in the first place, without dudes slamming them for expressing themselves sexually. It's pretty obvious by the chef analogy that homeboy is cooking dinner for one.

 

[AJ84]

@Urbanyst if you were smashing me and I said "I love the amazing feel of your hot c0ck in my wet pvssy.....harder, faster, pulllease!"

Is that instructional to you? Suggestive, as in suggesting what to do?

I always thought " taking dirty" was classified more along the lines of a (dirty) running commentary, but you seem to have a different definition.

"Pullease!"
hahah that's funny.

Just to add to what beexcellent wrote, those women who don't like sex are likely the ones who don't communicate what they want for whatever reason. Reading the back and forth here I wonder if some of these women had negative feedback from guys when they did try to tell them what they like.
These are the ones whose husbands complain that their wives won't sleep with them except on birthdays and Christmas lol.
Personally, I wouldnt waste time with a guy who doesn't care what I like in bed. It's selfish and an indication of other things he won't care about.
For the single ladies out there with options there is no reason to settle for that kind of a guy when there are men out there who enjoy getting women off.

 

[resilient]

:: opens thread... looks around.... forget the popcorn, @Roober, it's slippery in here!::

 

[Urbanyst]

@Urbanyst if you were smashing me and I said "I love the amazing feel of your hot c0ck in my wet pvssy.....harder, faster, pulllease!"

Is that instructional to you? Suggestive, as in suggesting what to do?

I always thought " taking dirty" was classified more along the lines of a (dirty) running commentary, but you seem to have a different definition.

That would be fine by me.

Also.. I don't mind dirty talk coming form a woman. I just don't like talking dirty myself. I'm more about action.

Some dudes just can't handle a woman confident in her sexuality. It's hard enough to find in the first place, without dudes slamming them for expressing themselves sexually. It's pretty obvious by the chef analogy that homeboy is cooking dinner for one.

LOL. As if.

Blue pill sh*t.

Women don't need to be "handled".They should be enjoyed.

Like saying "Some dudes just can't handle a pizza with chocolate chips on it"... Umm.. no.. its more like some dudes just DON'T LIKE their pizza that way.

Don't try to shame or guilt me into finding wh0ring and carouseling appealing in women. This is what bred feminism.

Its the same horse sh*t where MEN dress up in women's clothes.. then want to shame any women who doesn't consider them a "real man". LOL. Some girls just "can't handle" my feminine side.. yeah right... STFU lol.

 

[Macaframalama]

Blue pill sh*t.

Dude, why is anything left of beating a bich over the head with a club, dragging her off by the hair of the head and ****ing her considered blue pill around here?

Don't try to shame or guilt me into finding wh0ring and carouseling appealing in women. This is what bred feminism.

Not concerned with what you feel bruh.

Its the same horse sh*t where MEN dress up in women's clothes.. then want to shame any women who doesn't consider them a "real man". LOL. Some girls just "can't handle" my feminine side.. yeah right... STFU lol.

Uh, ok. How in the hell you equate that to a woman expressing how she likes to be pleasured is beyond me, about just as much as it makes her a *****. There is a word for people like you. It is called insecure. So you push ppl down with your labels to make yourself feel more powerful. Since you bring up dominance so much, here is a little eye opener for you. You wouldn't even be given the chance to dominate her if it weren't for her choosing to let you dominate her. The least you could do is be receptive to her sexual needs and desires. Or don't. It makes it that much easier for those that do.

 

[Urbanyst]

Dude, why is anything left of beating a bich over the head with a club, dragging her off by the hair of the head and ****ing her considered blue pill around here?

Its not.

Uh, ok. How in the hell you equate that to a woman expressing how she likes to be pleasured is beyond me, about just as much as it makes her a *****. There is a word for people like you. It is called insecure.

I'm open to suggestions in bed. I'm also open to women who want to experiment and try new things in bed. That's hot. So yeah.. I'm very open to listening to women's ideas about sex in the bedroom.

But if she has some kind of ridged instruction manual for me to follow she is either a wh0re or she wants me to imitate some man she f*cked already.

Like going to Chinese restaurant and telling the chef to make his eggrolls the way the guy across the street does.

I'm not saying its bad to be a used up wh0re with documented c0ck riding notes. I'm just saying its not something that turns me on sexually in a woman. And that's ok.

So you push ppl down with your labels to make yourself feel more powerful. Since you bring up dominance so much, here is a little eye opener for you. You wouldn't even be given the chance to dominate her if it weren't for her choosing to let you dominate her. The least you could do is be receptive to her sexual needs and desires. Or don't. It makes it that much easier for those that do.

If I'm f*cking a girl and she discovers she really likes something. I would encourage her to remind me next time so we can do it again.

I had this one girl who said she really liked the position I used with her. It was new to her and she said she wanted to do it again, only more rough. I had no problem with that. Suggestions are welcome.

But don't come to my apartment with a textbook with notes, highlights, tags and drawings about how Chat or Tom f*cked you right in 2015 and tell me to do the same thing. Get lost.

 

[Macaframalama]

Its not.



I'm open to suggestions in bed. I'm also open to women who want to experiment and try new things in bed. That's hot. So yeah.. I'm very open to listening to women's ideas about sex in the bedroom.

But if she has some kind of ridged instruction manual for me to follow she is either a wh0re or she wants me to imitate some man she f*cked already.

Like going to Chinese restaurant and telling the chef to make his eggrolls the way the guy across the street does.

I'm not saying its bad to be a used up wh0re with documented c0ck riding notes. I'm just saying its not something that turns me on sexually in a woman. And that's ok.



If I'm f*cking a girl and she discovers she really likes something. I would encourage her to remind me next time so we can do it again.

I had this one girl who said she really liked the position I used with her. It was new to her and she said she wanted to do it again, only more rough. I had no problem with that. Suggestions are welcome.

But don't come to my apartment with a textbook with notes, highlights, tags and drawings about how Chat or Tom f*cked you right in 2015 and tell me to do the same thing. Get lost.

Different strokes I guess. I actually prefer to be around people in general that know what they want and aren't afraid to let it be known. Ppl generally tend to hold back, because they are fearful. I myself know that I have and still do hesitate sometimes. I am far happier, when I don't, regardless of the outcome though. Whatever floats your boat man, I'm not saying it's wrong. I just feel it's not right to label someone as something negative, because they feel differently. There's something to be said though, when you can get in a woman's mind and get her to completely release her inhibitions. It's not an easy thing to do. Probably in part for fear of how she will be percieved. The last thing I want to do is completely shut that down. Personally, it makes me feel on top of the world. If you think about it, most women aren't even comfortable being fully naked in front of a man, much less making noises and being verbal. Are we truly being open and free, while suppressing ourselves or someone else?

 

[Urbanyst]

If you think about it, most women aren't even comfortable being fully naked in front of a man, much less making noises and being verbal. Are we truly being open and free, while suppressing ourselves or someone else?

I don't WANT the woman to be too comfortable.

The fact that she feels some level of anxiety around me while also having STRONG attraction is exactly the dynamic that is supposed to happen. You're supposed to be a little bit intimidated by the king. You're not supposed to feel like "anything goes and there are no rules".

This "anything goes" crap is why women today are such b*tches and men are total p*ssies. A man who doesn't keep his woman in check on some level creates a monster and loses all her respect at the same time.