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Rough stuff, humiliation, cumming in face, general debased debauchary.

I love it, but I find I never really push it in an LTR or girl I care about. It's easier when it's with a girl I just meet, and it continues into the FWB/etc.

But I don't know how to switch it up with a LTR
 

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Just do it. She’ll let you know if she doesn’t like it. Had an FWB stay over for the first time a few weeks ago, I’d never allowed it in the past.

I insisted she sleep naked, and told her I’d most likely f*ck in the middle of the night, she giggled.

I did, rougher than ever and then just rammed into her ass while pulling her hair as hard as I ever had. She loved it all, and came repeatedly. It was as rough as I get, but her back left hand marks on her bum. She rolled over and fell asleep, as she walked out the door in the morning she said “last night was amazing, I’m sore as fak but it was great” (paraphrased). We’ve never discussed it, but sex has definitely hotter with her.

Most women respond well to rough sex, even if they’ve never had it before. YMMV
 
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Just do it. She’ll let you know if she doesn’t like it. Had an FWB stay over for the first time a few weeks ago, I’d never allowed it in the past.

I insisted she sleep naked, and told her I’d most likely f*ck in the middle of the night, she giggled.

I did, rougher than ever and then just rammed into her ass while pulling her hair as hard as I ever had. She loved it all, and came repeatedly. It was as rough as I get, but her back left hand marks on her bum. She rolled over and fell asleep, as she walked out the door in the morning she said “last night was amazing, I’m sore as fak but it was great” (paraphrased). We’ve never discussed it, but sex has definitely hotter with her.

Most women respond well to rough sex, even if they’ve never had it before. YMMV
I guess the benefits of working in long term care are insane.
 

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Just do it. She’ll let you know if she doesn’t like it. Had an FWB stay over for the first time a few weeks ago, I’d never allowed it in the past.

I insisted she sleep naked, and told her I’d most likely f*ck in the middle of the night, she giggled.

I did, rougher than ever and then just rammed into her ass while pulling her hair as hard as I ever had. She loved it all, and came repeatedly. It was as rough as I get, but her back left hand marks on her bum. She rolled over and fell asleep, as she walked out the door in the morning she said “last night was amazing, I’m sore as fak but it was great” (paraphrased). We’ve never discussed it, but sex has definitely hotter with her.

Most women respond well to rough sex, even if they’ve never had it before. YMMV
I’ve had women that want it rougher than I was prepared to give. Like I feared a criminal charge if I accommodated. Women are masochists at heart

what helps tho is establishing a safe word then you know you can let loose till you hear it
 

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Yo I'm talking LTR's not hoes
 

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Yo I'm talking LTR's not hoes
Dude the most straight laced unassuming women have an inner slut, even the “good girls” it’s up to you to get her comfortable enough with you to unleash it.

“Strong, intelligent, independent, I don’t need no man but would like one” types love to get dominated, (by the right man). Who the “right man” is, varies from woman to woman.
 

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Rough stuff, humiliation, cumming in face, general debased debauchary.

I love it, but I find I never really push it in an LTR or girl I care about. It's easier when it's with a girl I just meet, and it continues into the FWB/etc.

But I don't know how to switch it up with a LTR
Just do it and see how they react.
 

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I hear you guys, honestly, I do.

I'm talking a chick you already settled into a rhythm with. To switch up it, to get from BF zone to PS zone.

Also when yo been with the same girl a few months, that dirty debased sex is always the one...

Please someone say they know where I'm coming from?
 

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@Murk I get it. I'm the same way. For me it's a mindset I have to change. I guess somewhere in my brain really dirty/rough sex is not respectful. That isn't always true.

Don't be afraid of offending a woman in the bedroom, she will tell you if it really bothers her.

I came on one of my exes face one time and it got it her eyes and she had burning/red eyes for the next day. I felt horrible.

Later she told me how much she loved it, she just wanted some warning so she could close her eyes next time. Lol

A woman that is really into you loves being your dirty bedroom sluht/wh0re. Treat her like one from time to time. I've never totally understood it, I just know they all like it.
 

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If you’re the problem that’s one thing, can’t help you with that.

If you’re worried about her reacting badly your frame is off as well. You need to behave like she will love it, you have to know she will.

You can ratchet things up slowly as well. That’s what I do with new partners. We get the basics down first, she knows at this point I can reliably get her off on several ways, this builds trust for her. To her she knows you care because you found her “spots” as they like to call them and know how to make her orgasm even against her will.

I have always been very verbal with women, encouraging them at all times. While I’m ponding a chick and she’s looking at me and making approving noises I’ll lock eyes with her, get into a rhythm where she’s losing her mind and then tell her how much I love her little tight wet snatch (use something that you’re ok with). That often turns them on even more, you could then ask her how it feels, get her talking about sex.

I’m most cases she’ll love it, and it builds even better levels of intimacy, then you could ask her if she likes getting pounded once she replies affirmatively say “I’m going to pound you even harder” again most will allow you to even if you’ve not in the past. Then you’d best get her off as a result to set the precedent and if you’re observant you can often tell when she’s beginning to O, at that precise moment tell her to come for you in a commanding tone.

This is a Jedi mind trick, she was already going to orgasm if you kept you rhythm, depth and stroke consistent but now you’ve added a voice prompt. She will, if done properly, begin to associate rip roaring orgasms with you commanding her to have one. Now you can tell her to come for you and if you’ve set it up correctly she will like clockwork. You can also tell her that you’re going to force her to orgasm but be ready to back it up with your pecker.

This is often how you start getting into rougher sex with women.

Hope the suggestions make sense and work to get you to what you want vis’a vis debauched sex, move the piece across the board in steps.

You could also have a conversation with her that’s sexy and flirty where you tell her that you need to talk to her about sex and let it sit for a while, it will drive her anticipation. Then suggestively tell her that you’ve been holding back if you can tell the story correctly she’ll be intrigued.

YOU MUST HAVE THE CORRECT FRAME TO DO THIS, YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE YOU CAN DO IT AND SHE WILL LOVE IT.

You cannot fake confidence.
 

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If you’re the problem that’s one thing, can’t help you with that.

If you’re worried about her reacting badly your frame is off as well. You need to behave like she will love it, you have to know she will.

You can ratchet things up slowly as well. That’s what I do with new partners. We get the basics down first, she knows at this point I can reliably get her off on several ways, this builds trust for her. To her she knows you care because you found her “spots” as they like to call them and know how to make her orgasm even against her will.

I have always been very verbal with women, encouraging them at all times. While I’m ponding a chick and she’s looking at me and making approving noises I’ll lock eyes with her, get into a rhythm where she’s losing her mind and then tell her how much I love her little tight wet snatch (use something that you’re ok with). That often turns them on even more, you could then ask her how it feels, get her talking about sex.

I’m most cases she’ll love it, and it builds even better levels of intimacy, then you could ask her if she likes getting pounded once she replies affirmatively say “I’m going to pound you even harder” again most will allow you to even if you’ve not in the past. Then you’d best get her off as a result to set the precedent and if you’re observant you can often tell when she’s beginning to O, at that precise moment tell her to come for you in a commanding tone.

This is a Jedi mind trick, she was already going to orgasm if you kept you rhythm, depth and stroke consistent but now you’ve added a voice prompt. She will, if done properly, begin to associate rip roaring orgasms with you commanding her to have one. Now you can tell her to come for you and if you’ve set it up correctly she will like clockwork. You can also tell her that you’re going to force her to orgasm but be ready to back it up with your pecker.

This is often how you start getting into rougher sex with women.

Hope the suggestions make sense and work to get you to what you want vis’a vis debauched sex, move the piece across the board in steps.

You could also have a conversation with her that’s sexy and flirty where you tell her that you need to talk to her about sex and let it sit for a while, it will drive her anticipation. Then suggestively tell her that you’ve been holding back if you can tell the story correctly she’ll be intrigued.

YOU MUST HAVE THE CORRECT FRAME TO DO THIS, YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE YOU CAN DO IT AND SHE WILL LOVE IT.

You cannot fake confidence.
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I hear you guys, honestly, I do.

I'm talking a chick you already settled into a rhythm with. To switch up it, to get from BF zone to PS zone.

Also when yo been with the same girl a few months, that dirty debased sex is always the one...

Please someone say they know where I'm coming from?
Start by sticking your thumb in their ass when you have them doggy style and see how they react...if they like it then start talking dirty about sticking something a little bigger in there, etc...

Or you can always simply have a nonchalant talk about what other things they are into after fvcking when you are both still laying there.

Or next time they are being a pain, jokingly tell them "You better watch out...if you keep it up I am going to wrong hole you next time"...I've said that jokingly a few times and had women tell me how hot that thought it was...

Tell them what you want to do to them..."I want to stretch your tight little ass open with my big c0ck and then cvm in your mouth"

You'd be surprised how many women find that extremely hot...chicks are weird with this stuff...you can pretty much unapologetically say anything you want to them and they will usually be OK with it if not turned on by it. Even(and sometimes especially) the more reserved ones you think wouldn't be. Sometimes those are the closet freaks.
 
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Rough stuff, humiliation, cumming in face, general debased debauchary.

I love it, but I find I never really push it in an LTR or girl I care about. It's easier when it's with a girl I just meet, and it continues into the FWB/etc.

But I don't know how to switch it up with a LTR
Ask her if she finds that kind of stuff exciting.

If she says "no, that's disgusting" tell her "that's the spirit"
 

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Most of the chicks over 25 that you will meet have had caveman sex with their past exes or fwbs.
don’t let that straight innocent walk fool you into not.
I always go in with that crooked mentality more times than not with a bottle of premium silicone lube and handcuffs in the drawer. Mouth spitting, leave handprints on the ass, face slapping,tug her hair while choking her, anal till she sh1ts on your member etc that’s kind of the norm with many innocent souls.
Inject some slow lovey dovey s3x as well. Unpredictability in bed is a jolt to her system
Never had an issue just a “take it slow” and then they the one’s begging for it. They all filthy and love the lukewarm bondage with the right man. I’m a depraved son of a nasty gun.
You just have to really have a copious amount of wisdom to treat every girl properly according to their backgrounds. I would encourage to not stop your modus operandi that way you can also gauge what kind of girl you dealing with. Soft or dirty it don’t matter as long as she is into you.
 
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The complete lack of consent in this thread is concerning.

If you're in a relationship with someone, you should be able to have all kinds of difficult conversations with them.
A relationship is a safe space that you develop and unfold into, together.
If you feel like you have to play games or keep frame or act tough in relationship, you've missed the mark.
It really is a container for your mutual becoming. It's a place of celebration, somewhere you go to give, and to rest.
With such a relationship, the bedroom can be a container for the things that are too taboo for ordinary life.

Practice being vulnerable. Practice having hard conversations. Find your language.
You can also bring more to the bedroom yourself.
Go down on her. Find a way to love it. Talk to her. Ask her for what you want.
Just ask for what you want.

Also don't be obsessed with orgasm, like this whole thread is. It kills pleasure, curiosity, and exploration.
Have some lightness and focus on mutual pleasure.
And find a way to stop performing. Look above.
 

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While I agree with probably 75% of what you've written below, consent is implied. Do you make women ask if she can suck your weenus?

p.s. Although in a D/s sitch, now that I think about it, that would be hawt.

The complete lack of consent in this thread is concerning.

If you're in a relationship with someone, you should be able to have all kinds of difficult conversations with them.
A relationship is a safe space that you develop and unfold into, together.
If you feel like you have to play games or keep frame or act tough in relationship, you've missed the mark.
It really is a container for your mutual becoming. It's a place of celebration, somewhere you go to give, and to rest.
With such a relationship, the bedroom can be a container for the things that are too taboo for ordinary life.

Practice being vulnerable. Practice having hard conversations. Find your language.
You can also bring more to the bedroom yourself.
Go down on her. Find a way to love it. Talk to her. Ask her for what you want.
Just ask for what you want.

Also don't be obsessed with orgasm, like this whole thread is. It kills pleasure, curiosity, and exploration.
Have some lightness and focus on mutual pleasure.
And find a way to stop performing. Look above.
 
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