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"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Direct Approach
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Direct Approach:
1) Making sure you exude confidence and even though going direct, not showing neediness.
2) Embed that you are interested but have other options
3) Hook hard! Try anchoring a kino when you hook. A well calibrated girl will doggy dinner bowl and at that point you can go for the kiss.
4) Just because you're going direct doesn't mean you have to be boring with the "So, what do you do?" questions.
1) Making sure you exude confidence and even though going direct, not showing neediness.
2) Embed that you are interested but have other options
3) Hook hard! Try anchoring a kino when you hook. A well calibrated girl will doggy dinner bowl and at that point you can go for the kiss.
4) Just because you're going direct doesn't mean you have to be boring with the "So, what do you do?" questions.
I wanna find out if anyone actually really tried the direct approach even in daygame and what was your success rate?
"Hey, what's your name? I like the outfit. You look sexy. How about we have lunch sometime?"
I'm gonna try that line today.
"Hey, what's your name? I like the outfit. You look sexy. How about we have lunch sometime?"
I'm gonna try that line today.
HAHAHAPhilippeUrielAmancio said:Or just wait until it's dark.
I went to the club 2 days ago..
A 3-set of HB 9's were standing and Rejected everyone who approached them.
I never bothered because my friend got rejected because he came up to one of them and asked them How long it took her to do her hair..
She said
5 seconds...
He told her its ugly... she said OK... and ignored him...
You think it would have worked if you told them Directly That theyr beautiful and gorgeous...
Before you can be sucessful going direct - you need to have a direct mind-set. Its not about canned lines or any of that sh!t. A direct guy is direct in everyday life not just when his chatting up a girl. Most importantly a direct guy DOES NOT GIVE A FvCK WHAT OTHERS THINK OF HIM. It takes time to change your beliefs and have a direct mind-set - Learn from the best. ModeOne is good.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
ModeOne ??sexybeast said:Before you can be sucessful going direct - you need to have a direct mind-set. Its not about canned lines or any of that sh!t. A direct guy is direct in everyday life not just when his chatting up a girl. Most importantly a direct guy DOES NOT GIVE A FvCK WHAT OTHERS THINK OF HIM. It takes time to change your beliefs and have a direct mind-set - Learn from the best. ModeOne is good.
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VERY WELL STATED!!Derek Flint said:Seeing thier face light up like a Christmas Tree is when you know you've done a correct direct approach, with the right body language, right tonality, and with confidence.
The guys that would rather use indirect openers don't have the balls to approach a 9 or 10 directly, and neither do most so called "PUA's" they use some lame "opinion opener"
Want to "DHV"? Walk up to a straight up dime, and confidently tell her that you think she is gorgeous, and that you would like to get to know her. Not in a "you're so hot, I would do anything to be with you" type of way, but with a confident state of mind, like "That ass is mine, and I'm going to go take it"
Most guys here can't/won't do it, so they denegrate those who do and can.
Trust me, when done correctly, a Direct approach works better than any "method" I've seen or done, and I've been in the "community" for 10 years.
PU is not complicated. You don't have to "Peacock" or learn the M3 model, or NLP, or "The Cube" or "Cold reads" or any of those gimmicks, tricks and such.
And, if you don't believe me, try it for yourself, then listen to the feedback you get from the women who tell you how awesome it is to have a guy approach them in such a direct, straight-forward manner, instead of using some lame opinion opener when she damn well knows why you are approaching her, and it's not because you care about "who lies more, men or women?"
Actually, many women will categorize you as an "AFC" when you use an indirect approach because you don't have the balls to approach her directly, when she damn well knows why you are approaching her.
And if you're worried about "giving away your power" then you never had any to begin with.
I've had 9s and 10s literally shake and tremble, and say "Oh my god" when approaching them directly.
Who do you think has the "power" in that interaction?
And at that point, she's already yours.
Think you'll get that type of reaction by asking her if she saw the two girls fighting outside over some guy? Or some other overused community opener?
And, it's not just about the approach, it's how you conduct yourself after the approach as well. Being direct. No games. No negs. No Cube. None of that BS
I would also recommend reading "Mode One" by Alan Roger Currie.
Do a search. It's a $20.00 ebook and will open your eyes to what is possible when dropping the games and the BS
Games are for women.
I couldnt have done better....What if the girls are in a 2 set or more...
Can you still pick your target and Use the Direct Approach even when the other girls are listening?
Because, You KNOW... HB 9 and 10 's Are NOT alonee :nono:
Randallpink83
Master Don Juan
or become a DJ and say **** my looks, you girls will love me anyhow.....ToughLove said:and if ur ugly, dont even bother cold approaching!!! ur best bet is to get hooked up thru your social circle or simply by lowering your standards
Derek Flint
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Well said. It is not just an approach, it's about your lifestyle.sexybeast said:Before you can be sucessful going direct - you need to have a direct mind-set. Its not about canned lines or any of that sh!t. A direct guy is direct in everyday life not just when his chatting up a girl. Most importantly a direct guy DOES NOT GIVE A FvCK WHAT OTHERS THINK OF HIM. It takes time to change your beliefs and have a direct mind-set - Learn from the best. ModeOne is good.
As for "Mode One" Google "Mode One by Alan Roger Currie" it's a $20.00 ebook that is not for the faint of heart.
Yes, you can approach directly to a single girl in a multiple set.
I've even had her friends "wing" for me after doing a direct approach.
No excuses, no BS, no canned material, no routines, no tricks, tactics etc...
It's about being honest with your approach and your intentions, and living your life in much the same manner.
Derek Flint
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That's not really the way to do a direct approach.ChrizZ said:I wanna find out if anyone actually really tried the direct approach even in daygame and what was your success rate?
"Hey, what's your name? I like the outfit. You look sexy. How about we have lunch sometime?"
I'm gonna try that line today.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Derek Flint
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More good advice...Lust said:Direct Approach:
1) Making sure you exude confidence and even though going direct, not showing neediness.
2) Embed that you are interested but have other options
3) Hook hard! Try anchoring a kino when you hook. A well calibrated girl will doggy dinner bowl and at that point you can go for the kiss.
4) Just because you're going direct doesn't mean you have to be boring with the "So, what do you do?" questions.
The best reaction I've ever gotten was from an HB 9.5 who literally shook and trembled (I know this because I was holding both of her hands with mine) and kept repeating "Oh my god" as if the Man of her dreams just proposed to her.
All i do is direct approaches. They work for me.Why?
1) I am displaying my interests and being honest
2) I am above her ( 9's,10s,shb++)
3) I am confident and sure of my self
4) I am not insecure
5) I am charming
( looks wise: to my self i believe i am the best looking man around , although i know there are men who could be better looking than me and stuff )
I walk up to girls and tell them how beautiful they are and how much id like to meet them. Guess what? They love it.
Its natural, its been done like that for centuries. Thats all you need. Good bye.
1) I am displaying my interests and being honest
2) I am above her ( 9's,10s,shb++)
3) I am confident and sure of my self
4) I am not insecure
5) I am charming
( looks wise: to my self i believe i am the best looking man around , although i know there are men who could be better looking than me and stuff )
I walk up to girls and tell them how beautiful they are and how much id like to meet them. Guess what? They love it.
Its natural, its been done like that for centuries. Thats all you need. Good bye.
Agent Zero
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What are some direct openers you guys recommend? College is back in session and there are hot babes everywhere. I will still use "are you single" but I want some variety too.
zerocelcius
Master Don Juan
Lust said:Direct Approach:
1) Making sure you exude confidence and even though going direct, not showing neediness.
2) Embed that you are interested but have other options
3) Hook hard! Try anchoring a kino when you hook. A well calibrated girl will doggy dinner bowl and at that point you can go for the kiss.
4) Just because you're going direct doesn't mean you have to be boring with the "So, what do you do?" questions.
#1 is Key and I believe the hardest, yet if you have it, than it would be the easiest. Not showing neediness (giving away your power). Right?
You are the first I have heard to mention anchoring a Kino. The calibrating seems to be a Make/Brake point. So far nobody has really said how they calibrate these girls. How many of you calibrate prior to the DA?
#4 is where a lot of people are saying it is at. Do it right and it works, but if you miss calibrate them or come off as needy and it doesn't really matter what you say or how you say it.
If you get the DDB than you have done it right and you’re in there like swimwear.
To clarify I am not against DA. I do think for most guys using the line about a girls beauty is going to be too much. Meaning it will be really tough for them to use this line (and it is a line) and not come off as needy or transparent. Also I think for guys that don’t know how to calibrate a girl they could easily pick the wrong girl to use this with.
I would say if you are new to the DA find something you can honestly say about them/her that isn't "your beautiful" and use that until you get used to the DA and from there try it out and see how you do.
Agent Zero said:What are some direct openers you guys recommend? College is back in session and there are hot babes everywhere. I will still use "are you single" but I want some variety too.
"are you single"
no, sorry
get ready to hear that alot
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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I am expecting that about 50% of the time and that's what I've gotten so far in 4 approaches.ToughLove said:"are you single"
no, sorry
get ready to hear that alot
Magma
Senior Don Juan
A great discussion. I'm new to the community, and am discovering new insights every day both about myself and the dynamics of seduction. I don't have a problem with DA from a fundamental standpoint, but I live in a fairly small city (about 100,000) where I teach history. There are certain professional lines that can't be crossed, and approaching the wrong woman (ie former students that I don't remember, "OMG, that guy used to be my teacher!) could have serious professional ramifications due to the size (or lack thereof) of city. Being labled a player would not be good.
Having said that...
I agree with Zerocelsius when he inquires about accurate calibration of the set before the approach using DA. I understand that various schools of thought exist, which reminds me of an analogy: There are many paths up the mountain. Some people may be more analytical about seduction and the arguments behind the techniques. Others may have no desire for such analyzation. But let's not fool ourselves here. At the most basic level, whether using DA or IA, both are games that use lines. For a DA advocate, their game is that they play no games. I tend to lean towards IA, simply for the reasons that I stated in my opening paragraph. This is a great discussion that has me thinking about the fundamental theories of seduction, and that's a good thing any way you slice it.
Having said that...
I agree with Zerocelsius when he inquires about accurate calibration of the set before the approach using DA. I understand that various schools of thought exist, which reminds me of an analogy: There are many paths up the mountain. Some people may be more analytical about seduction and the arguments behind the techniques. Others may have no desire for such analyzation. But let's not fool ourselves here. At the most basic level, whether using DA or IA, both are games that use lines. For a DA advocate, their game is that they play no games. I tend to lean towards IA, simply for the reasons that I stated in my opening paragraph. This is a great discussion that has me thinking about the fundamental theories of seduction, and that's a good thing any way you slice it.
I used a situational opener on a 3 set of HB's that were rejecting everybody (9.5)Derek Flint said:Well said. It is not just an approach, it's about your lifestyle.
As for "Mode One" Google "Mode One by Alan Roger Currie" it's a $20.00 ebook that is not for the faint of heart.
Yes, you can approach directly to a single girl in a multiple set.
I've even had her friends "wing" for me after doing a direct approach.
No excuses, no BS, no canned material, no routines, no tricks, tactics etc...
It's about being honest with your approach and your intentions, and living your life in much the same manner.
They rejected my opener as well..
You think directly stating that they are gorgeous And i would like to get to know them would have worked?
IWillReturnsoon
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You're gonna get rejected sometimes no matter how suave, charming or confident you are. Plus, you're assuming that they would've rejected you. Have u tried direct, it might've been different. Don't base that it doesn't work, just on one approach.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.