"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Kool4Katz

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I go to grad school, a relatively big program. I'm concerned because I dislike sarging alone. The friends I have are nerds; the guys I don't like much are the ones who actually do out. But I can go solo if I need to...

the real problem is I am doubly self-conscious being a student in a somewhat isolated town. It's one thing to feel weird going to a bar alone and meet people you don't know, but I'm extra spooked because I don't want to get a reputation in my program as a creepy guy who goes out alone (because while I don't have a ton of "friends" to go out with I do socialize a lot and know people casually. They might be at the bars, and then I have explaining to do).

My only solution is... to drive hella far to crappy bars I guess. Just want to see if this is an understandable problem and if other solutions might exist.

In general, i am shocked by how unadventurous most of my friends are. I'm not looking to simply meet girls. I just want to have fun, get into interesting predicaments. Reading some posts here convinces me that "DJs" must be a rare breed.
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If you know people casually and they are at the bars, then why not strike up a conversation with them?

Chances are will no one will care where your friends are, as long as you are talking to people.

And if your friends are losers (trust me, judging from your post they are), you need to ditch them, as hard as it may be, and strike out on your own until you make new ones.

You need to get over the hang up about looking "creepy" going out alone.

Because in reality, it is actually a lot easier to pick up chicks alone than going out with friends, but it does take balls.

Majority of my pick ups in bars etc have been when I was out alone or when i was temporarily separated from my friends.

Why?

Because chicks who are into you, who would not normally approach you if you were with other guys, will take the opportunity to approach you if you are alone (or at least, circulating and not bound to any one group). And if that happens, it is practically in the bag.

Give it a shot and see how you go.
 

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runner83 said:
If you know people casually and they are at the bars, then why not strike up a conversation with them?

Chances are will no one will care where your friends are, as long as you are talking to people.

And if your friends are losers (trust me, judging from your post they are), you need to ditch them, as hard as it may be, and strike out on your own until you make new ones.

You need to get over the hang up about looking "creepy" going out alone.

Because in reality, it is actually a lot easier to pick up chicks alone than going out with friends, but it does take balls.

Majority of my pick ups in bars etc have been when I was out alone or when i was temporarily separated from my friends.

Why?

Because chicks who are into you, who would not normally approach you if you were with other guys, will take the opportunity to approach you if you are alone (or at least, circulating and not bound to any one group). And if that happens, it is practically in the bag.

Give it a shot and see how you go.
First off, thanks for the insight. much appreciated.

Why not casually strike up a convo with people I know? Just consider that I'm in a giant high school, metaphorically, with the grad program. I'd find it embarrassing to be at a bar alone - given I could bump into people I know. Not simply because I might seem "creepy," but because I'm also a loser who would go out alone. Wouldn't you, from a social standpoint?
 

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The first thing I do when I step in a bar is find a guy or a couple guys by themselves. Introduce yourself, learn their names. This gets me in a social frame of mind and gives you some"friends" to work with if necessary.
 

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Man I go out to the bar alone all the time, and usually that's when I have the best luck. Honestly, the only time i've ever picked up a waitress is when I go to the bar alone.

Have some self confidence and just do your own thing, people will follow.

One more note, don't say "I have nerd friends", it just makes you look bad, if they're your friends they're your friends. Be cool with that, you should respect your friends.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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i think by the time people are in grad school they are mature enough to not care about this whole "if you sit by yourself at lunch then you're a loser" thing.

This is really more of a high school mentality.
 

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lolwut said:
i think by the time people are in grad school they are mature enough to not care about this whole "if you sit by yourself at lunch then you're a loser" thing.

This is really more of a high school mentality.
Thanks guys. Yeah I couldn't agree more. It IS a high school mentality. Trust me, I'm not paranoid about it. We really do have one in my program. Tons of gossip. Feels like high school. Just trying to clarify. And as to "nerd friends" well it does make me look bad, but they're nerds from a competitive program. It's true.
 

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Kool4Katz said:
Thanks guys. Yeah I couldn't agree more. It IS a high school mentality. Trust me, I'm not paranoid about it. We really do have one in my program. Tons of gossip. Feels like high school. Just trying to clarify. And as to "nerd friends" well it does make me look bad, but they're nerds from a competitive program. It's true.

We're saying that your mentality seems childish..
 

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When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Mike32ct said:
I've only scored alone.
Assuming you're talking about scoring with chicks (;), I agree with this. Probably 3/4 of my "night game" hook ups have been alone.

Because like I said earlier, chicks are much more likely to approach you if you are not some pvssy hiding against the wall with your friends for support.
 
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