"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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did the tables just turn here?

needtobeloved

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okay so this girl that I liked, I actually woke up this morning and thought, I actually don't, sure she is beautiful but she actually gets on my nerves more than she appeals to me, so anyways I sent her txt message that basically said "just so you know i don't like you in that way anymore" and guess what?...she rang home 10 minutes later and said 'hi...it's me what was that text about?" and I said 'hi..what do you mean? it explains itself" and then she did her a little sigh thing (which she is an expert at I might add) and then goes well "I don't understand you" and I said "i am telling you that I don't like you in that way anymore while you were away (she was away for 4 days and we hadnt seen each other in 5) I had time to think and came to the conclusion that a lot of things about you annoy me" and she interrupted and goes "well a lot of things about you piss me off you know" and I said "thats fine" and then she said "i have to get back to work but we will talk about this later" and I said "really whats there to talk about?" and then she sighs (a frustrated one) again and goes "whatever bye"

What do you make of this?.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You just killed any chances of getting with this girl. You never tell a girl "i like/dislike you"...ever! That was a really dumb move, so no the tables did not turn.
 

Donald Kaufman

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The tables did turn. You became the women, and not a great one; flaky, indecisive, baiting, and a drama queen. She has become the man; tired of the above behaviour. Enjoy.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Mister Big

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Originally posted by optimist prime
That was wierd....are you in 6th grade?
I don't like you anymore? WTF?
Its possible that this chick forces you down to her emotional level which is grade school. Some woman are like that no matter what their age and never develop adult relationship skills.

Avoid, avoid, avoid. After you nail her of course.
 
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needtobeloved

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It was I don't like you in that way anymore...I thought I'd be getting some power back, no matter I am moving out because I can't handle living with her she just isnt good for me...end of story.
 

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I just found a new place today so I am moving in a couple of weeks, it is the best thing to do I know this, thanks for those that dissed me and those that provided insightful comments...forums like this are all good but in reality things are MUCH different and I think you all know this.
 
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Most guys don't have the balls to say what you did - a man doesn't stay where he doesn't want to - move on and good riddens to her!! Obviously you weren't feeling loved; hence, your username!

You should have did it on moving day - now you have to deal with the drama for 3 weeks!
 

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Originally posted by Best friends? NAY
No, you didn't just loose your chance with her. Infact you do hold a little more power now.
BUT I thought she anoyed you. Don't go out with her just beacuse you think you have a chance now. I went out with a girl for her looks once, she was anoying as hell and I ended up hating it.
This is the correct reply. Do you all see how she immediately returned his text message? Do you all see how she immediately was on his **** and how much attention she gave to the situation? He now is in the situation of power, and she now has to focus her attention on getting back his enthusiasm for her, providing he even wants her back.

There's no excuse for symping to get *****, which is what I think a lot of you tend to do from the replies I'm reading. When you do that **** the broad is running everything, not you. Some people really fail to see that for some reason, and judging by the replies I see it here as well. This wasn't an immature thing to do, grade school and whatever else was said is ridiculous. Fact is, girls love drama even though they say they don't. Girls say they like nice guys, even though they know that they'll soon grow bored of being with one and will resort back to their old ways in some form or another.

I'm not talking ****, but this is really stuff you gents should already know by now. This guy's behavior was warranted and created a postive stance in his relations with this girl. How he plays it at this point is up to him. But compensating yourself just to bang a broad is weak. Its never ok to be the symp, regardless of circumstance.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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