CornbreadFed
Master Don Juan
I've seen a lot of anti-marriage and anti-LTR posting recently, and I think some guys are missing something pretty obvious. I'm not saying marriage magically fixes your life. You can get married and still be a loser. In addition, you can be single and successful. That's not the point though. The point is that some lifestyles actively reward you for being a ****ing degenerate.
I had a friend who used to party constantly, sleep around, do drugs, get into sketchy situations, get mugged outside SUS apartment complexes late at night from leaving random women's houses at 3 AM, and eventually get a DUI that resulted in jail time. At some point, things got bad enough that he was living with family. However, he was getting laid, so he was winning according to some men.
Some people do not understand that immediate rewards and long-term outcomes are not the same thing. If you're getting enough sex and attention despite being a degenerate, then you can spend years convincing yourself that your life is fine while everything else is slowly going to ****.
Eventually, he met his future wife, and they got married extremely quickly, which I'm not recommending to anyone, but his life changed. He moved into an apartment with her, got promoted to shift leader at his factory, started saving money, bought a house, and now they're expecting a child. Yes, they may get divorced someday, but you would have to be completely ****ing delusional to look at the two trajectories and pretend they were equivalent. One guy was couch surfing, getting arrested, and wandering around sketchy apartment complexes at night chasing *****. The other guy is employed, saving money, owns a house, and is about to become a father. If this is "Blue Pill" or "Beta Male," then have a nice day lol. The relationship gave him responsibilities and a reason to start thinking beyond whatever dopamine hit was available that night.
In addition, he debunks the black pill too. He's 5'5, Asian, worked at McDonald's, not rich, doesn't work out that much, and not redpilled. Essentially, he wasn't some 6'4 Chad running around ****ing women because genetics handed him a winning lottery ticket. My friend was literally getting women while bouncing between his aunt's house, his sister's house, and friends' couches. He groomed himself reasonably well, had a naturally funny and teasing personality, and understood the women who were actually interested in him. He wasn't spending his entire life crying online because blonde sorority girls weren't lining up to **** him. He pursued Asian and Latina women, where he apparently did very well.
That's another thing I think some guys need to understand: you do not need to appeal to every woman. Stop hyperfixating on the women you want who don't want you and figure out where you actually have success. People act like dating is some universal referendum on your value as a man. "If the hottest women I personally want aren't attracted to me, then it's over." No. That's ****ing stupid. Different people are attracted to different things. If you have a type, you might have a much easier time with certain demographics, subcultures, personalities, etc.
No, I'm not saying everyone needs to get married. I'm saying that being rewarded for self-destructive behavior doesn't make the behavior good for you. Getting laid while your life is falling apart is still having your life fall apart. Furthermore, sometimes the right relationship doesn't make you weaker, boring, or "beta." Sometimes it forces you to stop living like a 22-year-old forever and finally build something.
IMHO, that's a better outcome than spending your 30s explaining on the internet how much ***** you theoretically could have gotten if society, women, genetics, OLD, and feminism weren't all conspiring against you.
I had a friend who used to party constantly, sleep around, do drugs, get into sketchy situations, get mugged outside SUS apartment complexes late at night from leaving random women's houses at 3 AM, and eventually get a DUI that resulted in jail time. At some point, things got bad enough that he was living with family. However, he was getting laid, so he was winning according to some men.
Some people do not understand that immediate rewards and long-term outcomes are not the same thing. If you're getting enough sex and attention despite being a degenerate, then you can spend years convincing yourself that your life is fine while everything else is slowly going to ****.
Eventually, he met his future wife, and they got married extremely quickly, which I'm not recommending to anyone, but his life changed. He moved into an apartment with her, got promoted to shift leader at his factory, started saving money, bought a house, and now they're expecting a child. Yes, they may get divorced someday, but you would have to be completely ****ing delusional to look at the two trajectories and pretend they were equivalent. One guy was couch surfing, getting arrested, and wandering around sketchy apartment complexes at night chasing *****. The other guy is employed, saving money, owns a house, and is about to become a father. If this is "Blue Pill" or "Beta Male," then have a nice day lol. The relationship gave him responsibilities and a reason to start thinking beyond whatever dopamine hit was available that night.
In addition, he debunks the black pill too. He's 5'5, Asian, worked at McDonald's, not rich, doesn't work out that much, and not redpilled. Essentially, he wasn't some 6'4 Chad running around ****ing women because genetics handed him a winning lottery ticket. My friend was literally getting women while bouncing between his aunt's house, his sister's house, and friends' couches. He groomed himself reasonably well, had a naturally funny and teasing personality, and understood the women who were actually interested in him. He wasn't spending his entire life crying online because blonde sorority girls weren't lining up to **** him. He pursued Asian and Latina women, where he apparently did very well.
That's another thing I think some guys need to understand: you do not need to appeal to every woman. Stop hyperfixating on the women you want who don't want you and figure out where you actually have success. People act like dating is some universal referendum on your value as a man. "If the hottest women I personally want aren't attracted to me, then it's over." No. That's ****ing stupid. Different people are attracted to different things. If you have a type, you might have a much easier time with certain demographics, subcultures, personalities, etc.
No, I'm not saying everyone needs to get married. I'm saying that being rewarded for self-destructive behavior doesn't make the behavior good for you. Getting laid while your life is falling apart is still having your life fall apart. Furthermore, sometimes the right relationship doesn't make you weaker, boring, or "beta." Sometimes it forces you to stop living like a 22-year-old forever and finally build something.
IMHO, that's a better outcome than spending your 30s explaining on the internet how much ***** you theoretically could have gotten if society, women, genetics, OLD, and feminism weren't all conspiring against you.
