You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Very solid postIt wasn't "tight game" like people are saying at all. And this is why.
You rage-quit needlessly on a set that had a lot of life in it. And you regret it.
You are purposely trying to punish her. But really you're cutting your nose off to spite your face.
Like I said to you in the other thread where you asked the same question, leaving is fair enough. She wasn't being respectful of your time.
If she's done it before, another trick you can use (that I actually learnt from women doing it on me) is to mirror her tardiness.
On leaving, I'm with not wanting to go back too (sort of embaressing).
So instead, you tell her that you've gone home and she can join you there. And then you tease the fvck out of her about it.
That's developing a relationship with her on your terms.
What you did was to close the door completely. And women are generally far more prideful than many here give them credit for. Allow her to save some face whilst doing it on your terms, and everyone is happy.
Closing the door on her is great, when you've actually had enough of her - not when you're counting the days until she initiates.
Why do I say this? Because i've been the guy rage-quitting relationship after relationship, and consoling that I am a prideful person - when really I had very immature boundaries.
Just a heads up.
Fair enough. What do you think is the best course if action now? What's done is done.What you did was to close the door completely. And women are generally far more prideful than many here give them credit for. Allow her to save some face whilst doing it on your terms, and everyone is happy.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Nothing waitFair enough. What do you think is the best course if action now? What's done is done.
I am pretty sure there's interest, because she always touches me and kisses me when together, I just don't want to appear desperate. Besides I need to punish her for disrespecting me.To follow from this now, i probably would use something like her birthday as an excuse to send a feeler out to test if there's any interest left in the set. If there's not, i'd just consider it done and move it on.
I think you completely missed the point of what @deesade was saying.... sigh... this woman whom you have gone out with only 3 times and accepted her tardy behavior until recently, owes you nothing...I am pretty sure there's interest, because she always touches me and kisses me when together, I just don't want to appear desperate. Besides I need to punish her for disrespecting me.
Yep and neither do I.this woman whom you have gone out with only 3 times and accepted her tardy behavior until recently, owes you nothing...
You may have bruised her ego to the point that she may not reach out. I would do as deesade suggested. Her birthday couldn't have came at a better time.I am pretty sure there's interest, because she always touches me and kisses me when together, I just don't want to appear desperate. Besides I need to punish her for disrespecting me.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
I am certain that I will get a response if I reach out to her, the question is, will her disrespect continue if I reach out first?If reaching out to her, and possibly not getting a response could make you upset, then stay "no contact".
Probably. It never works with a chick once you have frustration and are p!ssed at her. Thus why I disagree with all who say to reach out and are asking why you slammed the door on her.I am certain that I will get a response if I reach out to her, the question is, will her disrespect continue if I reach out first?
If she responds and you guys get it back on track, make sure you have a constructive conversation about your expectations, prior to meeting for your next dateI am certain that I will get a response if I reach out to her, the question is, will her disrespect continue if I reach out first?
I agree. And one time she made me wait 40 minutes, with no heads up like "Hey I am running like". That time she came up with "I had to finish stuff at work", which is fine, but at least she could have given me a heads up and could have said "I am running late, can you come 30 minutes late" or something along those lines. This is just total disrespect of my time.What makes it worse is that she really didnt even have a reason. "I lost track of time"???? Are you fvcking kidding?
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
I agree. Total disrespect. Treat her as a smash plate at your place if she reaches out. Nothing more. I can tell that you honestly could care less about her birthday, so why send her anything.I agree. And one time she made me wait 40 minutes, with no heads up like "Hey I am running like". That time she came up with "I had to finish stuff at work", which is fine, but at least she could have given me a heads up and could have said "I am running late, can you come 30 minutes late" or something along those lines. This is just total disrespect of my time.
She maybe a HB 9, but I am much higher value than her. I own a business, make around 250k, dine at the best restaurants in town and drive a luxury car.
I believe she has a lot more to loose than me.
You have to figure out for yourself what type of man you are and the rules that you play by and how much chit you are willing to eat along the way. To me, one set isn't worth my principles and game as a whole. Short term vs long term trade-off. It does require a little more patience, but nothing worth while comes easy. 40 minutes, without a call, fvck that. She just gives zero fvcks. You're playing your game. You write the rules and regulations.I am certain that I will get a response if I reach out to her, the question is, will her disrespect continue if I reach out first?
I think her IL is low anyway, you can probably raise it but it will just drop again.I decided not to reach out first. If she has high interest in me she will reach out first. If she doesn't then i don't need a girl with low interest.
She fu*cked up big time, not once but 3 times. I can't be a doormat and reach out first.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Honestly I don't care. In the end for me it's more important to have my respect rather than reach out.I think her IL is low anyway, you can probably raise it but it will just drop again.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.