"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I met a girl at a party on New Years eve. I just called her (no answer) and left this voice mail:

"Hey, its Tony. I met you at the New Years eve party at Matts house. I think your pretty cool so I definitely think we should hang out again. Tonight, my buddy is having a little party at his cottage on the lake and I think you should come. Anyway, its gonna be fun so gimme a call back."

I think I might have had a little nervousness in my voice but I dont know if it was detectable and I might have gone a little to fast with a little bit of the wrong tone but once again, I dont know if it was detectable. SO other than that, how is it...good, bad? What could I have improoved on?


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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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That was quick and to the point, no real ****ing around.
probably better.
 

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I hate Voicemail It's up to them if they want to delete it or not. I would rather talk in person. But If you're going to leave a message I would make sequels. First make your first recording really myserious like this. Hmm I bet you know who this is just (say where you met but not your name). Then say you have something great to tell her (but don't tell her in this message). Then tell her to call you back if she wants to hear the good news. If she doesn't respond call her back after the exciting event. Then say youre name and tell her she missed and great party but she can call you if she wants. sometimes it's ok to **** around with girls because they are not like us guys. By that I mean they will usually flake and don't think about us like we do them. Well that's my tip for today. Hope I helped.
 

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I've learned from experience that leaving a voicemail on first contact is not a great idea. This puts the ball in her court and girls hate this.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Update:

I called and left the voice mail at like 1:45ish in the afternoon. Well, I thought she was not interested but she did end up calling back at a little after 8pm with a "Hey Its XXXX, call me back".

But I think I did something that might have killed my chances with her.

I didn't hear her call and I didnt check my phone until like 9:30 at which point I realized she left a voice mail. I honestly thought she was not interested because she waited so long to call back. Well, I didnt have service so I had to wait to call her back until we got to the cottage. And to top it off, I had pre-gamed with the booze so I was already a little retarded. Well, I finally called her back at like a little before 10pm. Here is the bad part (I think this is bad), because I was already a little drunk and not thinking strait, I left another voice mail....and a stupid one at that. I said something like "Sweet, we're playing phone tag now...Your It!" Yup, you read right, that was the first thing that came to my head to say. Seemed like a good idea at the time.

So did not calling her for over an hour and a half and leaving another voice mail, and a stupid one at that, screw me? What to do/say.....? help...
 

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Reply on the update.

Dude, thats fine. I think it a great message.

JJ
 

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The message is fine. I just wouldn't have left one, either.

It's not she's necessarily going to flake... some girls are just kind of scared of making calls like that. Maybe she's shy, too.
 
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ok, great, so what do I do, lol. Should I call again at soem point in the future? WHen? And what do I say?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Your first message was a bit too much information. Its much better to be a little vague to peak a girl's interest if you leave a voicemail.

You didn't fuvk anything up, I like what you left on the 2nd voicemail. It shows her your playful, fun and have an active social life with your friends.

It would've been better to wait and call her back the next day. The weekends should be spent meeting new girls to fill up dates for the following week.

Also never invite a girl you just met to a party. Why? Because there will be plenty of guys hitting on her and unless she really likes you that much she might go run off with one of them. Its better to set up one on one dates for the first few times you hangout, then after that if things go well you can bring her around your buddies.


Lastly, your really worrying about this too much, this reeks of one-itis and you need to watch your game from here on out.




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gotta love bimmers said:
ok, great, so what do I do, lol. Should I call again at soem point in the future? WHen? And what do I say?
Yeah, it's a toughie if you leave a message and she doesn't call back. I think it's kind of up to you whether you call again in a while, depending on how much you thought she was interested in the first place.

Personally I'd just let it go. If she's not willing to at least call you back and say "I'm busy" or something, you know, too bad for her. YOU are the prize, remember that!
 
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Pimp-sicle said:
Your first message was a bit too much information. Its much better to be a little vague to peak a girl's interest if you leave a voicemail.

You didn't fuvk anything up, I like what you left on the 2nd voicemail. It shows her your playful, fun and have an active social life with your friends.

It would've been better to wait and call her back the next day. The weekends should be spent meeting new girls to fill up dates for the following week.

Also never invite a girl you just met to a party. Why? Because there will be plenty of guys hitting on her and unless she really likes you that much she might go run off with one of them. Its better to set up one on one dates for the first few times you hangout, then after that if things go well you can bring her around your buddies.


Lastly, your really worrying about this too much, this reeks of one-itis and you need to watch your game from here on out.




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It might be a little bit of oneitis, but there are other girls I am interested in also. So its not like all of my concentration is on her. But at the same time, i dont just want to give up.

So what do you suggest I do? See if she wants to go out somewhere? For this sort of situation, where should I take her?
 

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gotta love bimmers said:
It might be a little bit of oneitis, but there are other girls I am interested in also. So its not like all of my concentration is on her. But at the same time, i dont just want to give up.

So what do you suggest I do? See if she wants to go out somewhere? For this sort of situation, where should I take her?

Has she even called you back since you left the 2nd voicemail???

If she calls back, then set up a date with her. Have a activity in mind, then ask her when she's free and set it up. Don't make the situation complex when its very easy.



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Theres a nice ****y and Funny canned way to get girls, actually, anyone, to call you back. I read it somewhere and i use it alot.

"Hey, you were totally right, i can't believe it, ok i gotta run, i'll tell you about it when you call me back".

Bam, thats it.

When they call back just bust them for being gullable and whatever.

Since you are on the phone, make sure you set up the date as soon as they call you back. Before you do, you have to refresh her memory of how funny and interesting you are.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Lust said:
Theres a nice ****y and Funny canned way to get girls, actually, anyone, to call you back. I read it somewhere and i use it alot.

"Hey, you were totally right, i can't believe it, ok i gotta run, i'll tell you about it when you call me back".

Bam, thats it.

When they call back just bust them for being gullable and whatever.

Since you are on the phone, make sure you set up the date as soon as they call you back. Before you do, you have to refresh her memory of how funny and interesting you are.

As you get older you'll learn that if you have to use gimmick's or reverse psychology to get a girl to call you back then you've already lost. Sure she might call you back because she's intrigued by what you meant, but once she figures that out or your angle, she'll be done with you.

Most guys don't gain enough rapport with a girl to get a first or second date. While the attraction might be there, its not enough since there are many people that you can be attracted to at once.



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