"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Did anyone else have natural game when younger and had to re-learn it?

Medina

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That was partly my reasons for joining the forum personally

Brushing up on a few mistakes I've picked up as I've gotten older

Looking back to when I was 19, 20, 21 etc there were no problems

But in my late 20's I kept making mistakes

But now I feel back on course again, I even got married 6 months ago

Stay in the game. That is my mission here
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I have always been very outgoing with a fun, positive and desirable personality.

I had to go through 2 bad breakups (one marriage and one engagement) to really hone my skills with women.

I find its not so much what you say but what you dont say, how you look at a woman and how you seduce her that matters.

The rest of it is nothing more than developing a friendship with a woman.

Most guys think they have to warm a woman up to them and build lots of rapport. I find the opposite works best.

I seduce them, bang them and they if they still have my interest to go deeper I will develop a friendship at a very slow pace. Hell I leave that part up to the woman tbh. My job is to get her out, seduce and repeat. She can focus on the rest. I dont have time.
 

EyeOnThePrize

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When I was younger I definitely had lots of natural game, but the confidence came more from ignorance. When I got older my life didn't go as I thought it would, which threw my game off. Throw in a couple bad breakups and I was a mess. Reading stuff here has helped me remember my frame. It's more of a jump start since when I'm on point in my life a woman can't do a single thing to throw me off center and being masculine in relationships comes naturally as opposed to something I have to actively study.
 

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Society is structured so that men, overtime, lose their edge.
  • Naturally loud and energetic = trouble in school. Here have some Ritalin.
  • The entertainment we consume all tells you that the happy ending is getting the girl (often through grand romantic acts and a ton of sacrifice).
  • Spend 5 minutes on social media or one of the content farm sites, and you’ll be exposed to male shaming for men who don’t commit or make X amount of money, or aren’t otherwise domestic.
  • Entertainment is cheap, omnipresent, and isolating.
  • Work is in front of a computer screen. As your friends start isolating themselves behind monogamy & monitors, your social interactions dwindle. Your skills atrophy: your default becomes our of state.
Very few guys, even the ‘naturals’ will be able to fully hold their frame throughout all of this. It really takes getting knocked off the treadmill and some lucky Google searches to be able to solidify your frame and actively resist these influences. If you’re reading this thread, you’re super lucky.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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