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"Devils Threesome" - A Cautionary Tale

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Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Fvvvck! Re the second mmf encounter, I don't care what planet you're from, if you suck a bloke off AND swallow, you are not straight.

My old flatmate fell for this. His GF convinced him to have a mmf threeway and convinced him to suck the other guy's d1ck. She dumped him about a month later and told him she just wanted to embarrass him by getting him to smoke the other guy's pole. Cold!

I don't care how much you love a woman, if you're not gay you've gotta be pretty fvcked up to agree to such weird demands.

I've had 7 "devil's threesomes" (with mates and girls we'd picked up) and can honestly say I had no desire to look at the other guy's d1ck and went to great lengths to avoid any type of physical contact!
We just did it for "funny story" reasons.
 

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Greasy Pig said:
Fvvvck! Re the second mmf encounter, I don't care what planet you're from, if you suck a bloke off AND swallow, you are not straight.

My old flatmate fell for this. His GF convinced him to have a mmf threeway and convinced him to suck the other guy's d1ck. She dumped him about a month later and told him she just wanted to embarrass him by getting him to smoke the other guy's pole. Cold!
Wow. That's messed up, but it speaks to exactly why you should never do that sort of thing.

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I don't care how much you love a woman, if you're not gay you've gotta be pretty fvcked up to agree to such weird demands.
Agreed, the guy would have to be gay or bi. At a minimum, bi-curious.

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I've had 7 "devil's threesomes" (with mates and girls we'd picked up) and can honestly say I had no desire to look at the other guy's d1ck and went to great lengths to avoid any type of physical contact!
We just did it for "funny story" reasons.
I've been party to a couple myself, including a 5some of MFMFM which was a couple who I was friends with the guy, myself, a girl I picked up, and another guy we were friends with. NEVER have I ever had group sex with a woman I was emotionally invested in. Just not going to happen...unless it's with other women. For some reason I'm just not threatened by that and with my history I know for a fact I can handle it and please the other woman/women.
 

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Yup. Did a threesome a week ago with my LTR who I was already on shaky ground with. It ended in drunk physical violence and us trying to repair whatever little trust we had for each other. Man...what a mess.

If I could do it over again, I wouldn't.

Edit: Actually it was a foursome. X_X
 
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Good lord my brain hurts now! Agh, man group sex just doesn't do anything for me. I'm more effeminate in the sense that the emotional connection is really important to me. A chick wanting to bang me and some other dude at the same time DEFINITELY puts a CAP on that...that chick in thread #1 is a total slvt and was just looking for self-gratification.

My new mindset is, if she's asking for group sex, she wants out of exclusivity and I think once that boundary breaks, for most couples, it's got to lead into sketchy territory.
 

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Buddha_Mind said:
Good lord my brain hurts now! Agh, man group sex just doesn't do anything for me. I'm more effeminate in the sense that the emotional connection is really important to me. A chick wanting to bang me and some other dude at the same time DEFINITELY puts a CAP on that...that chick in thread #1 is a total slvt and was just looking for self-gratification.

My new mindset is, if she's asking for group sex, she wants out of exclusivity and I think once that boundary breaks, for most couples, it's got to lead into sketchy territory.
I would agree, but only with respect to other guys. I'm completely okay with an SO hooking up with other women, so long as I know it's an open invite for me to join along if I ever choose to.
 

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About 4 years ago I met my ex-wife for happy hour to discuss some stuff regarding our divorce. Later that night her new bf met up with us and for some reason a gear slammed down in my head and I wanted to screw her in front of him. I'm pretty huge actually at about 8x6 and I know how to use it, so I was going to ruin her for him. Granted she's pretty big down there too so we were a good match and had all kinds of fun. Looking back I know it was a mixture of spite, ego, the whole 9 yards for me to want to do this to the sucker, but whatever. So one thing leads to another, we end up back at his place, and the clothes start coming off. She gave us head at the same time switching off and I kid you not once we were both hard the guy dwarfed me by a fair amount. Yes, she measured. I remember it--I don't have a choice. He was a hair over 11" top of the penis base to tip and 7" around the middle. This guy was the 1% for real. So, I soldiered on and figured I'd at least beat him at his own game since I knew how she liked it after being married for so long. Wrong. Missionary never worked for us, but because of his size, 3 or 4 long slow strokes gave her a more powerful orgasm than I remember her having with me. Needless to say my Devil's Threesome did NOT go as intended.
 

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Size absolutely does matter, but it can be good or bad. And if you're huge but don't know what your'e doing, it'll actually be a detriment.
 

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So, it seems the size actually does matter ?
Please don't turn this into a "does size matter" thread. That first link above, someone posted this which I think sums it up nicely:

http://www.reddit.com/r/relationshi...iends_that_are_a_married_couple_had_a/c3sak4j

And yet, I hear stories from nearly all of my female friends about guys who have big ****s and don't know how to use them. Yes, a bigger **** is capable (I'm assuming this information is true without looking it up, because I have insecurity issues), but you actually do have to know how to use it, otherwise it becomes a giant inconvenience and is quite uncomfortable. the 5.5-6.5" **** size is the vast majority because, over thousands of years, it has proven to be the superior size for passing on genetic material. Larger ****s take more skill to use, and not having that skill would be a detriment, I imagine.

The way I see it, we got stuck with a reasonable, easy-to-drive car in a video game, and people with bigger ****s got stuck with the manual, hard-to-drive speedster. If they don't know how to drive that car, they lose far worse than us, but if they know how to drive the car they succeed far better than us. We are the happy medium.
 

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Bagh. Not all vagina sizes are the same and a lot of the times you can hit spots in a smaller, tighter vagina with an average penis. If a girl wants a bigger d!ck she's probably got a big vagina. I'm average size and I can give an orgasm in a lot of different positions. Also the way a penis is shaped or curved, you can hit some spots better in certain positions too. If your **** curves down its better for doggy style. If it curves up good for missionary etc.

Also getting to know what your partner likes helps emmensley :)
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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ThunderMaverick said:
Bagh. Not all vagina sizes are the same and a lot of the times you can hit spots in a smaller, tighter vagina with an average penis. If a girl wants a bigger d!ck she's probably got a big vagina. I'm average size and I can give an orgasm in a lot of different positions. Also the way a penis is shaped or curved, you can hit some spots better in certain positions too. If your **** curves down its better for doggy style. If it curves up good for missionary etc.

Also getting to know what your partner likes helps emmensley :)
My thoughts on this subject track to that as well: size is relative. As was posted in one of those threads:

I'm in the top 50% of average in terms of overall size, and one of my ex's was big down there. Getting her off with straight penetration was frustrating and time consuming to say the least. So we experimented with larger toys. Sure enough she was having much stronger more numerous orgasms in a fraction of the time. Bigger was better. On the other hand, with another ex who was really small down there, my average size was too much and we had to go slow and be careful or I'd hurt her. It wasn't a good match and she'd be better off with a smaller guy.

Most of my experiences are with woman that are average. All things being equal, having had sex with average women and using bigger toys with them, it was uncomfortable and they preferred normal old me. IMO an average guy with good skills shouldn't have any problems getting each other off. If there's a stark size mismatch then there will be problems plain and simple and if she's bigger then a bigger guy will be a better match for her and vice versa. Moral of the story, size is relative.

Now for the exception to the rule. The above is all about relationship sex. What I've experienced first hand is that women who are just out to hookup prefer a larger penis size. Raw size + good skill seems to just be better from a more primal/visceral perspective as it hits all the buttons just right in average sized women on up. Studies have confirmed this in testing that the sight of a large penis turns women on more than the sight of a normal sized one. I think the couple involved in that first thread may have encountered this phenomenon, which would explain the wife's eagerness and excitement level spiking when the hung dude dropped anchor.
 

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About 4 years ago I met my ex-wife for happy hour to discuss some stuff regarding our divorce. Later that night her new bf met up with us and for some reason a gear slammed down in my head and I wanted to screw her in front of him. I'm pretty huge actually at about 8x6 and I know how to use it, so I was going to ruin her for him. Granted she's pretty big down there too so we were a good match and had all kinds of fun. Looking back I know it was a mixture of spite, ego, the whole 9 yards for me to want to do this to the sucker, but whatever. So one thing leads to another, we end up back at his place, and the clothes start coming off. She gave us head at the same time switching off and I kid you not once we were both hard the guy dwarfed me by a fair amount. Yes, she measured. I remember it--I don't have a choice. He was a hair over 11" top of the penis base to tip and 7" around the middle. This guy was the 1% for real. So, I soldiered on and figured I'd at least beat him at his own game since I knew how she liked it after being married for so long. Wrong. Missionary never worked for us, but because of his size, 3 or 4 long slow strokes gave her a more powerful orgasm than I remember her having with me. Needless to say my Devil's Threesome did NOT go as intended.
Checking out another guy's d!ck? Hmm. Come on, man!
 

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Yeah, say what you will about size matters, the woman in the story was obviously excited by it. To the point of completely forgetting about her husband.

So excited that she swallowed the guy's sperm, when she had never swallowed her husband's. I would have been p!ssed too.
Of course I never would have agreed to the threesome in the first place.
 
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Yeah, say what you will about size matters, the woman in the story was obviously excited by it. To the point of completely forgetting about her husband.

So excited that she swallowed the guy's sperm, when she had never swallowed her husband's. I would have been p!ssed too.
Of course I never would have agreed to the threesome in the first place.

Say what?! I thought the husband at least got his, but the proble was that she gave it up to the other guy as wellthat was the problem. Essentially she made the husband let another guy bang her to get what he wanted, but gave it away for free to the strange c0ck.You're telling me the husband didn't even get what he was promised out of that? DUUUUUUDE! that's even worse than what I thought.
 

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Holy christ, here's another:

My message to him and his response, from this thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/hi9kq/fiancee_and_i_have_a_threesome/

I saw this thread and was wondering if you could post a followup with what happened. Did you ever get your FMF 3some that you bargained for? http://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/hfc98/fiancee_wants_a_threesome/

The not unexpected response:

jstndlg

Not really. It started a bad chain of events, actually. I thought, or was talked into thinking, that it would be a good thing, but it was anything but. After the weekend with the guy, she seemed a bit off with me. In bed, it wasn't like before, instead seemed clinical. We had some arguments and decided to, at first postpone, then later cancel the wedding. I would hope to work things out, but from some of the things she said during our arguments, it didn't leave a good impression on her. And from some of the posts she's left on her FB, I get the impression that she's told people that I cheated on her with another guy. Not cool. Pretty much sucks in that department of my life now. Wouldn't recommend it to others.

Moral of the story boys, GET YOURS FIRST! And don't have 3somes that include other guys if you're in a relationship or attached to the woman in any way!!!!!
 

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MFM and MMF threesome................ THAT'S THE SAME THING!

Another thing, what's with all the guys in this thread telling stories of hookups with more guys in them than girls? SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL.

MMF is generally when 2 guys go at it with a girl tossed into the mix somewhere.

MFM is when 2 guys rail a chick, aka finger cuffs, aka Eiffel Tower, aka gangbang.

Generally the one in the middle is who the focus is on.
 

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Yet another case of a woman making arguments to excuse her behavior that she would NEVER in a million years accept from her man.

In general women are simply incapable of accepting responsibility for their actions.

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So my GF of 2 years asked me for any fantasy I'd like to fulfill since she was 'sure of our love' by now. I told her, well, a mff threesome, duh. She thought about it and said she was straight but she'd try it if I also did a mmf first.
Why the hell did he allow her to negotiate after she said she would "fulfill any fantasy?" When she counter-offered all he had to say was "wait a minute, I thought this was my fantasy, not yours. You don't have to get with the other girl, I'll bang you both the same time."

Then if she refused he can call her on not being willing to follow thru on her offer.
 

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Why the hell did he allow her to negotiate after she said she would "fulfill any fantasy?" When she counter-offered all he had to say was "wait a minute, I thought this was my fantasy, not yours. You don't have to get with the other girl, I'll bang you both the same time."

Then if she refused he can call her on not being willing to follow thru on her offer.
That was my take on it. It was about fulfilling fantasies. If she wanted to get hers fulfilled in return, cool. But havin to do a MMF or MFM 3some to "buy" the FMF or FFM 3some? That's just stupid.
 

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Say what?! I thought the husband at least got his, but the proble was that she gave it up to the other guy as wellthat was the problem.
It's from the first link. F & G are married, H is the third guy:

"According to G, H was bigger soft than G was hard. Ouch! F basically jumped G again and got him turned on with oral and got G into it, which worked. Again, they were drunk as hell. So here's G's main problem: he did get to have anal with her for the first time, but she was super enthusiastic about giving H oral, like way more vigorous and excited than anything G had ever gotten from her, and she let begged H finish on her face & swallowed for her first time. That pissed off G who stopped and went out to the car. F claims she didn't realize G left and continued"

Youch. Nine years married and she had never swallowed. Then in walks this guy with a big shlong and and she eats it like candy.
Yeah, I'd be p!ssed.
 

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A followup from the OP on that first story:

I saw your questions about this threesome thread. G isn't reading this thread anymore. It's too upsetting for him. For the record, I left all the following out because I wasn't sure if I was going to show G the thread, so do me a favor and keep this to yourself. I talked to his wife and she filled in a lot of the details. They were playing driking games beforehand which is how this all started. Once the clothes came off H compared some objects in the living room once he was hard and the next day she measured the remote with her tailor's tape to see how big he was, which was roughly 10.5-11x7-7.25"give or take a bit, so G wasn't lying when he said he was porn star and then some. F said H is more than twice as big (guessing she meant long) as G and way thicker, obviously. The worst part from G's perspective is if he hadn't ****ed F in the first place giving H sloppy seconds, there's probably no way H would have fit for any penetration and nothing would have happened for the most part. As I understand it G ****ed her on the couch while she gave H head upside down, then she flipped over for doggy on the end of the couch when F and G did anal as F gave H more oral. G came in his condom in her ass and H and G switched and this is when **** went wrong. H did F missionary on the floor while she gave G head without the condom, so he sorta got a little facial but not really since she basically only cleaned him off at that point. G went to the bathroom around this time and H was about to come and because G wasn't there she pulled H's **** up to her face and begged H to give her the facial and that's when she swallowed. Mind you he had a condom on for sex. I wanted to save G, but F said the dude "cummed buckets" with a bunch going in her mouth G didn't see, which was for the best. G figured out she didn't spit when he walked in and saw her face and realized what'd happened. Think mid-mouthful gulp as he turned the corner. She tried to clean herself up really quick to hide it, but G saw enough of this and that's when he got pissed off. She calmed him down and gave him some head after she was cleaned up i guess an her and H continued on and H flipped her around at this point and started doing her doggy at which point G stormed out. I'm guessing he just couldn't deal at thisi poinnt. When he came back in, F said she heard the door open and that's when she realized he'd actually left left (I know for a fact she lied to him about some stuff, but it was to protect his ego). I can only imagine how G felt at the scene of walking in with her in the process of getting a facial & swallowing. Worse still was when he walked back in later to seeing H sticking it in her ass, with no condom mind you, although G didn't know that. G turned around and left at that point, and F and H went at it a bunch later and he came in her ass had more vaginal intercourse. Thank god he didn't come in her vag, god only knows what would have happened if G found out. F is suffering some severe karma now though because she's got a wicked UTI from H going from ass to vag without a condom--and this is something G doesn't know, that H ****ed her without a condom and I'm super pissed at her about this part too, which is why we're not talking. The more the truth comes out the more ****ed this situation is and I can't defend her for being so ****ing selfish and disrespectful.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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