Depression sets it... What's your cure?

[Blue Phoenix]

I read a lot about psychology. And for what I´ve been reading/studying, depression sometimes is caused by "genetical" factors.

Its caused by an inbalance in your body. So, all of the blue you get depressed. Not always is something caused by "negative thinking", but due to your "genetic type".

You can do exams and take a blood test so you can see if there´s anything "wrong" with your body. If not, then it may be a psychological and not a physiological depression!

Take a look here: http://www.healthyplace.com/Communities/Depression/index.asp

It´s a very good web site, it may help you to find the answers you´re looking for!

 

[Alpine]

Some people have predisposition toward depression and there are also medical resons why someone may have depressive tendencies.

The danger is though people assume that's the case with them and feel it's a hopeless/helpless situation, feel even worse and do nothing.

In the main most people are not in the category of 'born a depressive' and it certainly doesn't mean you can't have a meaningful life.

Winston Churchill had very bad depression, where he was totally consumed by it. His 'black dog' as he called it. Yet he was one of Britains greatest Priministers and was a great leader during the war.

 

[jakeyboy]

haha... that may have been the reason for his (churchill's) depression mate.

thanks for all the advice... and making me feel better alpine. i'm now feelnig tons better and am working on the summary of this thread.. so look out for that when its done!

hey Blue Phoenix... i dont think i suffer from genetic depression.. the people in my family were/are rather jolly.

but thanks anyway for the link and the advice...

 

[Matt Rogers]

You say your ex is bothering you. Well, you have to forget about her and the way to do that is to keep really busy. You are single, you are FREE. Do all that stuff you have been meaning to do but haven't because of having to spend time with her.

Start playing more sports. Workout in the gym. Go for a run. Work harder on your studies (after all your future is more important than any girl). Catch up with your buddies and watch a movie. Socialise with people. Chase a few girls without looking for a relationship but a bit of fun.

Another thing that might help is realising your ex isn't perfect. List all her flaws. Compare her to better women. You will soon realise that the next girl in line will be twice the woman your ex was

 

[jakeyboy]

Originally posted by Matt Rogers
You say your ex is bothering you. Well, you have to forget about her and the way to do that is to keep really busy. You are single, you are FREE. Do all that stuff you have been meaning to do but haven't because of having to spend time with her.

Start playing more sports. Workout in the gym. Go for a run. Work harder on your studies (after all your future is more important than any girl). Catch up with your buddies and watch a movie. Socialise with people. Chase a few girls without looking for a relationship but a bit of fun.

Another thing that might help is realising your ex isn't perfect. List all her flaws. Compare her to better women. You will soon realise that the next girl in line will be twice the woman your ex was

hey man... thats a great piece of advice.. though sometimes i get distracted while i'm studying you see... it aint easy.. you been through this phase of oneitis with an ex before? if so.. i'd very much like to hear your story and how you got over it.. PM me if you don't feel like posting it on this thread

 

[zerocelcius]

Wow a lot of people on this one, and some amazingly stupid answers and some really great ones. I hope you aren't fallowing them all. Youll be a bit sidewase if you did.

Ok Depresstion is very serious!!!!! Understand that know it!!!

Depresstion at it's best will rob you of your natural life.
Depresstion at worst will make you take it.

Some very serious contributers are chemicals. Stay off the alcy, drugs, cig's, and soap opras!

Find somthing you love to do and when you feel underlined or depressed force yourself to get away from the place you are started that feeling and focus on somthing you love to do. Also they are saying that stimulants can help if you don't go overboard on them.... so sun, coffee, aromas, running, anything that will raise your awareness, and heartrate, and DON"T EVER GIVE IN TO IT.

I have lost a lot of friends and familey to this CRAP and if you don't think anybody cares your wrong. I do honostly care! You Matter and YOU are Worth investing your time and happyness into.

Somthing that can help is social interaction. Go somwhere social and don't be afraid to say hello to people. WHen you are feeling blue go cheer sombody else up it works like majic.

 

[zerocelcius]

ohh and if this is over a girl..


it is ok to say get over her assuming she left you cause than she is missing out and you can move on.

If she died than you really need to talk to sombody!!!!!!!! I know and don't take offense to people saying it will be ok or anything like that they are only trying to help.

 

[jakeyboy]

Originally posted by zerocelcius

Somthing that can help is social interaction. Go somwhere social and don't be afraid to say hello to people. WHen you are feeling blue go cheer sombody else up it works like majic.

you're definitely right on this one brother... done this before.. works like a charm... nearly forgot all about it! thanks for the reminder


yeah, i cant go on the drugs. got a major exam coming up, need a clear head to do it, ya know what i mean?


exercise would be good, since everyone keeps emphasizing on it.

sigh... gonna take a long time to get my "cures for depression" thread up in the tips forum..


and no.. she didnt die dude... she's well alive and doing very well in her life or so i heard. making ****loads of money now... so poor jakeyboy is left in the dumpster... i'm just not good enough for her anymore. when we first got together, she was out of a job... and she had all the time in the world to spend on me, and after she got her high paying jobs, it was like pooft. "i think i don't need you in my life anymore"

yeah. tis her loss anyway. some other girl will be very happy.

 

[Trance]

I had a depression, due to a rejection -» AFC mode, and due to bad college ratings.

I went to the doctor, and i started to take some anti-depressing pills. The morning one no problem, but the lunch one would put me almost to sleep.

Instead of sleeping the problem i started to fight it. I searched the internet about depressions and about women. I only took the pills for 2 months. My cure was:

- Started to go to the gym. Gotta be fit
- Learn a new activity - breakdance / hiphop
- Started to take better care of myself. Started to renew my wardrobe, keeping me busy and feeling more stylish and confident.
- Started to understand women better with the past experiences
- Started to go out 3 times a week with my friends, after all, i was a single guy who could go clubing fullthrottle.

So girls started to come, college improved, now i walk with a smile of confidence and hapiness.

 

[Pulsar]

Originally posted by squirrels
If you're anything like me, you're depressed because you're worrying too much about whether women like you.

Contrary to the beliefs of many people on this forum, you don't NEED sex. YOu may want it, you may want it BAD, you may be DYING for it, but you don't NEED it.

You're working on a spender-saver mentality. You come on forums like this and you absorb all of these techniques and tricks and crap and SAVE them all up until one day you SPEND them all on some p00n in exchange. You may get it, you may not. The thing is that you're constantly worried about whether the exchange is legitimate, if you're REALLY getting what you wanted for what you've spent. If all the time, energy, etc you've put in is giving you what you expected in return.

You're also trying to stack up what you have in the way of time, money, energy, love, etc against where you THINK you "want to be" in life, what you want to have. You treat your experiences like furniture in the house that is your life.

I fell into the same thing just before my 25th. I started thinking to myself, "By this time, I wanted a steady hot girlfriend, should be thinking about marriage, should have more financial success, a bigger house, more friends, etc etc"

It's all BULLSH!T.

Start thinking as an investor instead of a saver/consumer. Take your energy and your love and your "DJ skills" and INVEST them in people. Take some risks in your life and give your time and energy to people who you think are worthwhile investments. Let them grow and in return they'll pay you back dividends which you can re-invest in someone else.

Instead of approaching women and looking at it like, "OK, I'm going to give her the "Box of Crayons" pattern followed by some ****y-funny and some kino", think about INVESTING some of your natural energy in her.

Even if you've got only very little to give, don't horde it for yourself thinking that you "won't have enough to sustain yourself". Because you can ALWAYS generate more love, more energy, more time as long as you're alive.

The nature of human life is to be spent. Let your energy burn off, let that light that you give off cause others to grow and give light back to you. This is how we ALL grow.

The past is gone. It doesn't matter. It doesn't EXIST. The future doesn't exist EITHER. All that matters is what you do RIGHT NOW. Take each moment as its own baby step.

By the way, you can CHANGE the way you respond to your world. A newborn child comes out not knowing a damned thing about how to move...it just kicks and wails. But slowly over time it can learn to control those random muscle spasms, it learns to crawl, then to walk, then to run.

In a similar way, when we come into the world, our thoughts are just a jumbled mess of survival impulses. But over time, we learn how to create words, how to communicate, how to think logically, how to solve problems...we learn to control the way we speak.

What most people don't know is we can ALSO control the way we FEEL, the way we interpret the stimuli we encounter. Our attitudes toward life. You can train yourself to be happier, freer, more ALIVE. Some people do it behaviorally (acting "as if" until their spirit starts following suit). Some people can cognitively think their way to a better attitude. Some people need therapy...but actually a lot fewer than you'd think. The hardest thing to do is to actually ACCEPT that your universe is largely shaped by your interpretation of it...and your interpretation is FULLY within your control.

You may not be able to control your heart, but you certainly can control your soul.

Think of that last scene in the Matrix. When those bullets come streaming in, in your mind, hold your hand up and say, "No." And let them drop away powerless. See the whole world in raw code and understand that you HAVE the power to re-write it in any way you see fit. Not by using the socially accepted interface, but by using your mind and your soul and your hands to imprint some of yourself on the code of the universe. Something that will change others, that will set THEM free and allow THEM to give back to you in return.

****, that's one of the best posts I've ever read. Talk about causing a paradigm shift in me.

I also likes 'Cranks' advice.

I have printed this post out!!!

 

[il_duce]

Nice post squirrels. I think you should repost it in the Tips forum, a lot of people would like that.

And somebody add it to the DJ bible for fvcks sake.

 

[jakeyboy]

hey man... dont worry bout it... this isnt going to waste.. am gonna make a thread on depression (a compilation of all the stuff thats in here) and post it in the tips section.. hopefully to be put in the bible... hang on... its gonna be up soon.

 

[Pulsar]

Originally posted by jakeyboy
hey man... dont worry bout it... this isnt going to waste.. am gonna make a thread on depression (a compilation of all the stuff thats in here) and post it in the tips section.. hopefully to be put in the bible... hang on... its gonna be up soon.

that's a good idea bro

 

[TurboOverCubicInches]

Depression sucks. I can tell you first hand. I am in the process of attempting to reclaim myself. Although I'm not a doctor, theres prolly a few things I can tell you that might help. You have to remember almost everyone's depression is caused by an outside factor. Mine was that I grew up and continue to live in a religiously oppressive family that does not accept anything out of their lines of thinking. It also lead to some anxiety too. But heres what I can tell you from MY experience:

1) Anti-depressants treat the SYMPTOMS, not the CAUSE. They are still not well understood by the medical community and are notorious for their adverse side effects in alot of people. Sexual dysfunction, anxiety, agitation, nausea, are some of the more common effects. In my opinion, avoid them, because the real kicker is, when you stop them, depression recurs in a HUGE number of patients, over 50% if im not mistaken (though I may be). Because you are treating the symptoms and not the problem.

2) If you go to the doctor, they most likely will prescribe you a medication. You don't have to accept it, and do alot of research before you take it.

3) Examine your life. SOMETHING in your life is leading to it. You need to identify those causes.

4) Once you recognize the culprit, you need to begin "treatment".
The first thing you need to do is seek some talk therapy, also known as Cognitive Behavior Therapy. There you will talk to a qualfied person about your problems, and they will help you better understand whats going on and what you can do to help it.

5) Go to your bookstore and read up on nautral ways of alleviating depression. this does not mean necessarily using herbs and such. There are hundreds of ways to treat it. The first thiing you're going to want to do though is:

a) take your vitamins (read up on them and talk to your dr)
b) enhance your sleep pattern if its outta whack
c) be physically active

6) Finalize your treatment and go through with it.

Keep in mind that most doctors you see are going to prescribe medicine. Remember, you want to treat the problem. Now if you're to the point where you CANNOT FUNCTION, (ie, suicidal, sleep all day, etc) then you may need some temporarty medical intervention. But most people's depression are curable through behavior therapy and self-help. I hope this helps. Theres numerous good sources out in the bookstores to help you understand your problem. The more you understand it, the easier it will be to fight.

 

[Marius_Novus]

Originally posted by SirJLove
Exercise.

Most beneficial and least invasive way to overcome depression and stress.

Been there!

 

[jakeyboy]

hey if anything go check out the compiled stuff in the DJ tips section.. moderators... please close this thread! any replies should go there

 

[stevera004]

Originally posted by Marius_Novus
(Exercise is the) ... Most beneficial and least invasive way to overcome depression and stress.

Been there!

Me too. But, once the initial shine of working out hard rubs off, the depression returns. Sometimes the monster must be fed.

Great thread BTW.

 

[stevera004]

Originally posted by MrBond_Age


Depending on the different schools of thought, you would have many explanations for anxiety.

The people working with the biological aspects are more prone to give you medicine.

The psychoanalysts would say you've got a power struggle going on between your "that","me" and "myself" (translate to something like this). Anxiety is a form of guilt. You fear the possibility that something bad might happen to you because you could betray your own rules.

Behaviorists would say your anxiety is learned. You associated your anxiety with a situation or an object. It would also be possible for you to "unlearn" this anxiety with conditionning (like Pavlov`s dog).

Its really simple but it is a working process. Watch the "mechanical orange"(or something like that.Im translating from french, rememer) for a good idea of how it works.

Great post, your English is very good. I think the movie you are referring to is "Clockwork Orange".