"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Defining the relationship

SandHawk

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I'm currently spinning 2 plates and I am starting to really like one of them. The girl is cute, provide good laughs, is a great masseuse and on top of that, is incredible when it comes to sex. She's pro-active, gives awesome head, loves to be the submissive slave and is up for my experiments and sex in weird places.

In short, a girl that is LTR potential. Now, things are a bit complicated, and I think I like to define the relationship for a bit. I never defined the relationship, but she's giving off IOIs that can be interpreted as being in love. Asking me to come over, keeping me up to date with texts, constantly responds to my Facebook updates.

However, I've never actually defined relationships on my own. Usually the girl would bring it up, and I'd tell em it's purely sexual. This time however, I want to bring it up myself, but I'm not entirely sure. I was thinking about just asking "Alright, I need to get something straight: Is this purely sexual, or more for you?".

Any thoughts on this?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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casthenova

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Sounds good bro.

1) "Alright, I need to get something straight: Is this purely sexual, or more for you?".

2) Let her bring it up.

Step up to the plate if its what you want. Take it. Don't be afraid of rejection or loosing her. You obviously have enough game and skill to keep her interested she probably is waiting for YOU to step up. Your the man. Claim what you want. Be SOLID now, don't be another guy on here that didn't know when to stop playing games.
 

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Don't bring it up. That's HER job--and believe me, she WILL bring it up eventually.

In the long run, it's going to be better for you to be the one that GRANTS her exclusivity, rather than the one that ASKS her for it.

When a girl has high interest in you, she's ALREADY exclusive--a truly socially calibrated man understands this and doesn't ask for exclusivity when it isn't necessary. If you want a relationship with her, just wait for her to ask if this is going anywhere, and then tell her you've decided that yes, it is.

This sets the frame and places YOU in charge of the relationship. She will feel MORE invested in you, because she understands that she EARNED your love.

It's a minor detail, but this is the more successful way to handle this.
 

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DO NOT BRING THIS UP! Keep doing what you are doing and stay a challenge..I did this recently and messed everything up.

Let her make the move.
 

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Seems like the advice here unanimous, so I see no reason to ignore it. I'll stick to the plan, let her bring it up and step up my game a bit.

I always threw a little test at her tonight. She was on MSN, so I unblocked her(yes, I usually keep her blocked on MSN because I like to limit the amount of time she gets to speak to me, and she doesn't have to know when I'm home and when I'm not), and she opened me on msn. We had a bit of a chat, and then I popped she was still supposed to come see Donnie Darko(love the film) and proposed a day I knew she couldn't come over. She told me she couldn't come and so I proposed 2 days: Either monday or next saturday. She immediately went for tomorrow and cancelled a meet with her best friend for me. So far so good.

Tomorrow, I'll light a few candles in the living room and put em in the shower as well and then shower with the lights off. I'll see where it goes, and to seriously prevent one-itis, I'm going to sarge for an additional plate as my 2nd plate is starting to annoy me like crazy.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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