Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
Any woman who leaves you when your money runs out is a ho in my mind.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
You are entirely justified to feel this way about a woman who openly acknowledges her ONS. I have immediately dropped women in the past who had disclosed the same. The men who accept these women as LTRs are bottom feeders.Thanks for the detailed response. I'm starting to feel like I couldn't be with someone who had a ONS. Met a girl who on paper is great. I always come across as non judgemental so girls are open.
She tells me that when she was on holiday in Croatia she tried out tinder. Met a guy via tinder on her last night. He came over told her "this is just about sex right", they screwed, he left. Now some guys might say she was single blah blah blah.
But how can man be happy walking round with such a woman. In the back of my mind I'm thinking, is that all it took? A handsome face and a few words on tinder? I just don't think I could be proud being with such a woman, although this probably constitutes the vast majority of women - even those with low partner counts.
My question to SS is am I being unrealistic in my grievances? Is this the new norm?
More balanced perspective is key.The first is the male-feminist "everybody is exactly equal, sluts are no different than virgins" stuff. Putting all women's needs and value above his own. Polishing the pvssy pedestal.
The second is the k-selected man's "sluts and virgins are different. So you run game only on the sluts, but you give more chaste girls special treatment, dropping all standards for her and rolling out the red-carpet." Putting some women's needs and value above his own. Polishing the pvssy pedestal.
When you value yourself sufficiently, both arguments seem to become rather irrelevant.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
What is truly liberating, is learning how to control and own your emotions, independent of another's actions.Assuming all girls are h0s/sluts makes it easy to not pedestalize, not get the feels, not get disappointed when she behaves like one, etc. etc. It's a liberating mindset that enables a "dont give a fvck" attitude.
What if she is a "fair" and moral woman? Who is not driven by her emotions and has integrity? Treat her too like a "h0e"? Or treat them like h0es until they prove themself otherwise?Assuming all girls are h0s/sluts makes it easy to not pedestalize, not get the feels, not get disappointed when she behaves like one, etc. etc. It's a liberating mindset that enables a "dont give a fvck" attitude that ultimately enhances your game.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Only the pudding will ever tell the truth.Word.
Only hypothetically. Proof is in the pudding .
H0es aren't always about sex. They can use the PROMISE of sex to secure resources or get validated. THey normally are "crooks" looking for a come up.A Hoe is these 5 things together (they are mutual and need to be all included)
1) Has à lot of sex
2) Usually à lot of sex in short period
3) Sex often include strangers or random people
4) She requires alot of nervous stimulation (emotional, drugs, physical) like hyperactivity
5) She might complain about herself but she always digging herself back in it and never without remorse or any morality attach
A HoE is these 5 things and to be HoE you need have these 5.
The girl who has slept with 50-100 guys but who has her stuff in order, calm, respectful that externally would make à perfect LTR is NOT À HOE. People think too much in numbers. In this example: her lays could be boyfriend/3some stuff, ONS, people she know, dating.. Okay, I didnt say her âge and if she's 21 could qualify for HOE status.
However, it's the moral and stimulus aspect that in my opinion have deal breaker.
My LTR girl example: she could have alot of sex expérience but always done within her moral/respectful mind and barriers.
A HoE it would go no hold barrel
Is it safe/ok/accurate to assume the same about you? Or all of us men even? Serious question. It just seems like a paranoid way to go about life. FTR, I tend to approach things from a neutral standpoint and not put high expectations or assumptions on most things, especially something as dynamic as ppl, as more often than not, ppl will never live up to your expectations. The only expectations I hold are for myself. If a woman's expectations of herself align with mine, only then will I consider Ltr.Assuming all girls are sluts isn't some mind trick you play on yourself; you assume it because it's truth. Let her prove you wrong; but never make the mistake of giving her the benefit of the doubt.
They wont' if they con him out of the item first.They do have a lot of sex though, because they will need to have sex with some or most of those guys eventually to get those things.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Once I find someone's "character", I'll assume they operate out of that. They don't always tell you, you can watch actions or sometimes friends and family will let you know.Is it safe/ok/accurate to assume the same about you? Or all of us men even? Serious question. It just seems like a paranoid way to go about life. FTR, I tend to approach things from a neutral standpoint and not put high expectations or assumptions on most things, especially something as dynamic as ppl, as more often than not, ppl will never live up to your expectations. The only expectations I hold are for myself. If a woman's expectations of herself align with mine, only then will I consider Ltr.
Have you been conned out of the said resource or use they have for you and flipped it to where you wasn't helping anymore unless she's putting out?Very true, I've been on both sides of that.
That is a description for any women.cause they usually only look after their desires
And that is why one will never know the real truth of a girl/woman. All she tells you, is only what she wants you to know - everything else she is rationalizing alway for herself.Most women are not going to tell you about their escapades anyway
Spot on.Assume ALL girls are h0s - you'll be right more often than not ... make them earn not being seen as one (after several years i still haven't found a non-h0).
Take the red pill, it'll change your life.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.