DeepSeek

[sevbucmash]

Wouldn't say it's better than ChatGPT. But it's different. Thing is, you gotta grap it while it's available. In Italy they already banned the app.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Apparently they stole all the data from ChatGPT

 

[Clockwerk50]

Apparently they stole all the data from ChatGPT

I heard it is Chinese. I mean that’s what all they do, steal hardware/software from other countries.

 

[sevbucmash]

It's a possibility, but who cares. Main thing is optimized routines that make that thing potentially more intelligent.

 

[Clockwerk50]

It's a possibility, but who cares. Main thing is optimized routines that make that thing potentially more intelligent.

If you knew how Huawei took down Nortel in Canada—through corporate espionage, reverse engineering, employee poaching, and submitting fake bids to purchase the company only to back away—you'd understand how one became a telecommunications giant while the other crumbled, leaving many people out of work. It's hard to say that doesn't matter and a reminder how companies should take care of their intellectual property.

 

[Divorced w 3]

DeepSeek is incredible and I have to be honest, I find delightful that ChatGPT got beat at its own game of copying the entire written internet without consent under the guise of public license and now they’re all hung out.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I'm more interested in image generation, but from what I am reading, Deepseek's Janus 7b is not yet competitive.

 

[Bible_Belt]

DeepSeek is incredible and I have to be honest, I find delightful that ChatGPT got beat at its own game of copying the entire written internet without consent under the guise of public license and now they’re all hung out.

This is a long video, but you would like it.

 

[Divorced w 3]

This is a long video, but you would like it.

 

[Divorced w 3]

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[Serenity]

Apparently they stole all the data from ChatGPT

I heard it is Chinese. I mean that’s what all they do, steal hardware/software from other countries.

ChatGPT is a closed source model though, if it somehow leaked you would without a doubt find it somewhere on the internet for download. It also acts differently indicating they probably trained the DeepSeek model independently and with different parameters.

What's more concerning about DeepSeek is that they're probably mining data like crazy from everyone using it through their website or app.

The good part about this model is that unlike ChatGPT this model is actually completely open source. Meaning if you don't want the Chinese to know what you ate for breakfast you can just download the entire model and run it completely locally. You would of course need your own GPU farm to run the full model or sacrifice accuracy by going for one of the compressed models which are capable of running on a single newer gen consumer grade GPU.

So I'd argue that your data is safer if you use DeepSeek, but only if you're running the entire model on your own hardware. Something you can't do with ChatGPT, you have to use their service to use ChatGPT and as such they can technically track you.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

ChatGPT is a closed source model though, if it somehow leaked you would without a doubt find it somewhere on the internet for download. It also acts differently indicating they probably trained the DeepSeek model independently and with different parameters.

What's more concerning about DeepSeek is that they're probably mining data like crazy from everyone using it through their website or app.

The good part about this model is that unlike ChatGPT this model is actually completely open source. Meaning if you don't want the Chinese to know what you ate for breakfast you can just download the entire model and run it completely locally. You would of course need your own GPU farm to run the full model or sacrifice accuracy by going for one of the compressed models which are capable of running on a single newer gen consumer grade GPU.

So I'd argue that your data is safer if you use DeepSeek, but only if you're running the entire model on your own hardware. Something you can't do with ChatGPT, you have to use their service to use ChatGPT and as such they can technically track you.

OpenAI says DeepSeek ‘inappropriately’ copied ChatGPT – but it’s facing copyright claims too

The upside to this war of words? More competition is boosting consumer choice, including with OpenAI’s release over the weekend of a new AI model, o3-mini.

theconversation.com

 

[Serenity]

OpenAI says DeepSeek ‘inappropriately’ copied ChatGPT – but it’s facing copyright claims too

The upside to this war of words? More competition is boosting consumer choice, including with OpenAI’s release over the weekend of a new AI model, o3-mini.

theconversation.com

DeepSeek may have inappropriately distilled our models

I didn't consider this possibility, fair enough. Yeah, that would definitely not be fair play if this turns out to be the case.