first off im gonna say that this is long. second off im gonna say that its well worth the read
. pure interesting/intellectual conversation. ill admit it, when a guy comes on here and talks for an hour about one single girl and what happened a month ago blah blah blah im an AFC help me please etc. i skip it. no fvcking way im gonna read it all. yeah right. more like the first two lines. but this topic is way different. its good 
it was originally directed towards PuertoRican_Lover, and i was going to PM him about this, but i decided to be greedy and get all of the responses i could get
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PuertoRican_Lover, ive seen a lot of your posts lying around. im curious about what exactly your philosophy is on women/life/god/whatever. care to share with me?
it seems you believe that things have a natural order to it. nature all works out perfectly and is a beautiful thing. for example people naturally and biologically and psychologically like sex and are attracted to the opposite gender. i completely agree with this. and i know that you abhor homosexuality because of how it goes against nature (and while i agree it doesnt seem like the right thing to do, im not quite as anti-gay as you are
). my god, women go through hours of horrible pain to give birth to children, yet theyre attracted to the pain and want it and get pleasure from sex? theyre drawn to the d1 ck. thats nature working. without it we would be extinct.
(well more like we would have never existed).
one other thing that seems to be natural is that men make the move and women are the receivers. men are dominant. whether its a "hor" or a "lady" (lol)... which means that men are the ones who approach. so while women might seem to have the advantage, all they can really do is make themselves attractive and hope men approach, which explains all the attention hors. the game for women is to make yourself the most physically attractive girl that you can. but men, men can take 50 rejections in one week and still go out there and try again and again, and even if you only have a 1% chance of scoring, with every 100 women you WILL score. as long as men act the way they naturally are supposed to, they WILL get their play and reproduce. just takes some manliness. so really we are at the advantage here too.
anyway the whole natural thing makes a lot sense to me. im not even sure ive ever heard any other theory that made sense to me. in fact, i dont think ive ever thought/heard of any other theories period (unless you wanna substitute nature for god. in my opinion they are sinanyms). anyway, this is pretty much what ive believed until now, and then a thought came to me, and ive been thinking about it a lot. its actually kind of bothering me.
the all important question is: what if you were a woman?
seriously, what if you were a woman and you realized all of this? what if you were a woman and you had the exact same opinions as you do now about how life works? would you have a sex change operation? kill yourself? accept your "doomed fate," the fate you "received" before you were even born? doesnt it seem unfair?
i am aware that life is simply not fair. some people are taller, some are smarter, some are mentally handicapped, some are deformed, some have a small d 1 c |< etc... but to say that all women have a place as a woman underneath the man? not that they cant get a job. not that they arent allowed to get an education. not that they arent allowed to leave the kitchen. but... to be dominated. to be under control of the man. to, 99% of the time, WANT to be under control of a man. to WANT to receive and be submissive and be put in her place. but still, even if they do, is it really fair? it seems a bit cruel no? and not all women are like that. are those women in fact defects? if a woman likes to approach guys and isnt afraid to do it, then is it really going against one of the fundamental ways that the universe works?
imagine you were a woman and came to this site. imagine that you saw what your role was in nature. how would you feel?
it is VERY easy to say everything i just said as a man, just like its easy to put down black people if youre white: youre not one of them who cares. but america developed a concsience and decided enslaving the black people was wrong. they imagined being in their shoes and saw that just because their skin had pigments making it dark didnt mean they were underneath the white man.
the women saw this and said to the men, "hey! imagine if you were a woman!" and then everyone everywhere started saying this to all people. all of the sudden the death penalty was an uncivilized crime no matter what they did, and bombing the country that supports the terrorists who bombed your two largest buildings in your country became violent and wrong... thus an era of uncontrolled females was born for the first time in history (im pretty sure
).
what do you have about say all of this? what is your view on sex and relationships? is it fair? it doesnt seem like it is. i think the #1 cause for mistakes i ever make with chicks is just my disbelief. does she really want to be dominated? does she really want to be under my control? is that how i am supposed to act with women to get laid? most of my lays come from being funny, fun, laid back etc. never really the dominating guy. even if it does feel right, i have a hard time accepting that its what they really want. it just... doesnt make sense. WHY the FVCK would you WANT to be under someone? and WHY the FVCK would you find that kind of a person the perfect person to have ONS/relationship with? why dont women want equality? i know they claim they do and its all media BS. i think i get it that they are under men and that the WAY to ATTRACT women is to be OVER them. it just doesnt make sense...
holy sh1t whats waaaaay too many questions sorry guys. i just started thinking and got carried away with it heh.
if you have anything significant to add please do. correct me, add to it, agree, disagree (state why!), etc. im looking for a good intelligent open minded conversation. but keep in mind that if anyone flames me i wont even bother defending myself. i will just ignore you.
it was originally directed towards PuertoRican_Lover, and i was going to PM him about this, but i decided to be greedy and get all of the responses i could get
PuertoRican_Lover, ive seen a lot of your posts lying around. im curious about what exactly your philosophy is on women/life/god/whatever. care to share with me?
it seems you believe that things have a natural order to it. nature all works out perfectly and is a beautiful thing. for example people naturally and biologically and psychologically like sex and are attracted to the opposite gender. i completely agree with this. and i know that you abhor homosexuality because of how it goes against nature (and while i agree it doesnt seem like the right thing to do, im not quite as anti-gay as you are
one other thing that seems to be natural is that men make the move and women are the receivers. men are dominant. whether its a "hor" or a "lady" (lol)... which means that men are the ones who approach. so while women might seem to have the advantage, all they can really do is make themselves attractive and hope men approach, which explains all the attention hors. the game for women is to make yourself the most physically attractive girl that you can. but men, men can take 50 rejections in one week and still go out there and try again and again, and even if you only have a 1% chance of scoring, with every 100 women you WILL score. as long as men act the way they naturally are supposed to, they WILL get their play and reproduce. just takes some manliness. so really we are at the advantage here too.
anyway the whole natural thing makes a lot sense to me. im not even sure ive ever heard any other theory that made sense to me. in fact, i dont think ive ever thought/heard of any other theories period (unless you wanna substitute nature for god. in my opinion they are sinanyms). anyway, this is pretty much what ive believed until now, and then a thought came to me, and ive been thinking about it a lot. its actually kind of bothering me.
the all important question is: what if you were a woman?
seriously, what if you were a woman and you realized all of this? what if you were a woman and you had the exact same opinions as you do now about how life works? would you have a sex change operation? kill yourself? accept your "doomed fate," the fate you "received" before you were even born? doesnt it seem unfair?
i am aware that life is simply not fair. some people are taller, some are smarter, some are mentally handicapped, some are deformed, some have a small d 1 c |< etc... but to say that all women have a place as a woman underneath the man? not that they cant get a job. not that they arent allowed to get an education. not that they arent allowed to leave the kitchen. but... to be dominated. to be under control of the man. to, 99% of the time, WANT to be under control of a man. to WANT to receive and be submissive and be put in her place. but still, even if they do, is it really fair? it seems a bit cruel no? and not all women are like that. are those women in fact defects? if a woman likes to approach guys and isnt afraid to do it, then is it really going against one of the fundamental ways that the universe works?
imagine you were a woman and came to this site. imagine that you saw what your role was in nature. how would you feel?
it is VERY easy to say everything i just said as a man, just like its easy to put down black people if youre white: youre not one of them who cares. but america developed a concsience and decided enslaving the black people was wrong. they imagined being in their shoes and saw that just because their skin had pigments making it dark didnt mean they were underneath the white man.
the women saw this and said to the men, "hey! imagine if you were a woman!" and then everyone everywhere started saying this to all people. all of the sudden the death penalty was an uncivilized crime no matter what they did, and bombing the country that supports the terrorists who bombed your two largest buildings in your country became violent and wrong... thus an era of uncontrolled females was born for the first time in history (im pretty sure
what do you have about say all of this? what is your view on sex and relationships? is it fair? it doesnt seem like it is. i think the #1 cause for mistakes i ever make with chicks is just my disbelief. does she really want to be dominated? does she really want to be under my control? is that how i am supposed to act with women to get laid? most of my lays come from being funny, fun, laid back etc. never really the dominating guy. even if it does feel right, i have a hard time accepting that its what they really want. it just... doesnt make sense. WHY the FVCK would you WANT to be under someone? and WHY the FVCK would you find that kind of a person the perfect person to have ONS/relationship with? why dont women want equality? i know they claim they do and its all media BS. i think i get it that they are under men and that the WAY to ATTRACT women is to be OVER them. it just doesnt make sense...
holy sh1t whats waaaaay too many questions sorry guys. i just started thinking and got carried away with it heh.
if you have anything significant to add please do. correct me, add to it, agree, disagree (state why!), etc. im looking for a good intelligent open minded conversation. but keep in mind that if anyone flames me i wont even bother defending myself. i will just ignore you.