"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Dealing with the friends of a girl you want to get with?

DB12

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How do you fellow DJs go about gaming a girl whos friends tell her not to get with you for whatever reason? This has happened to me a lot when gaming girls so let me know
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

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Be friendly and charming to her friends, when she sees that you're not an a$$hole to her friends, she believes that theyre jealous and it pushes her into your lap. Either that or she has no will of her own and does as her friends tell her, in which case you're better off without her anyway. If you want a relationship with a girl, you want it with just that girl, not her friends too!
 

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I find sometimes even if your nice to her friends there will always be some conflict because her best friend or close friend whatever you want to call it will get mad at the fact your becoming between their friendship when thats not the case and I agree with you though I guess if she listens to her friends for decisions its time to let her ass go thanks.
 

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Women are constantly jealous of other women. True friendships between women are only real when one chick is vastly superior in every way. If the two girls are of relative standing/looks, they will constantly be in competition. I can't tell you how many times I heard my sister or even my girlfriends to some extent talking sh!t about one of her supposed 'friends' because said friend looked like a slvt or something. What they really mean is "damn she looks good I am jealous."

Now to deal with your problem: If the friend is jealous then it will only work to your benefit. If she genuinely disapproves of you though I wouldn't fret it. If the girl you are trying to get at values her friends opinions over her own values then you don't want to get with her anyway. I find often that when I try and break into a new circle there will always be some friendship "sh!t testing" because a.) they don't really know you and b.) they are being protective of their friend or c.) they are jealous that their gf is getting the attention. All you can do is try and warm up to them a bit. Give them some attention and make them feel happy.
 

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Haha that's actually true i've noticed that girls are really jealous creatures and hate on other girls or friends they perceive as a threat or is prettier anyway.. your saying if the friend is jealous it will work to my benefit.. but what if she genuinely dislikes me, say she doesn't think im attractive for her friend or her friends to out of my league then are you saying from there on that your thoughts of gaming said girl should be based on whether she listens to her friends or not? and do you think girls think for themselves or will most listen to there friends?
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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SoSuave666

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DB12 said:
Haha that's actually true i've noticed that girls are really jealous creatures and hate on other girls or friends they perceive as a threat or is prettier anyway.. your saying if the friend is jealous it will work to my benefit.. but what if she genuinely dislikes me, say she doesn't think im attractive for her friend or her friends to out of my league then are you saying from there on that your thoughts of gaming said girl should be based on whether she listens to her friends or not? and do you think girls think for themselves or will most listen to there friends?
Girls will act on their feelings no matter what anyone else thinks or says. So you have to wonder what has more effect on the girls feelings. Is it the alpha male? Or the competitive 'girlfriend.' Alpha male will win every time. If this chick's friends don't approve of you and are actually putting you down while you are in their company, give that sh!t right back. Have a backbone.

If a girls friends don't think you are good looking enough for her though, you might be in trouble. We have all seen an ugly dude with a hot girl..and you know what the friends think of the guy when that scenario happens? They think the guy is a real catch. The situation doesn't work in the opposite fashion though. If there are 6 girls in a circle and five of them think the guy is ugly, you better believe the sixth girl will be highly influenced by their thoughts. Social status is imperative to a female's survival in the social world...so keep that in mind.
 

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SoSuave666 said:
Girls will act on their feelings no matter what anyone else thinks or says. So you have to wonder what has more effect on the girls feelings. Is it the alpha male? Or the competitive 'girlfriend.' Alpha male will win every time. If this chick's friends don't approve of you and are actually putting you down while you are in their company, give that sh!t right back. Have a backbone.

If a girls friends don't think you are good looking enough for her though, you might be in trouble. We have all seen an ugly dude with a hot girl..and you know what the friends think of the guy when that scenario happens? They think the guy is a real catch. The situation doesn't work in the opposite fashion though. If there are 6 girls in a circle and five of them think the guy is ugly, you better believe the sixth girl will be highly influenced by their thoughts. Social status is imperative to a female's survival in the social world...so keep that in mind.
So contrary to popular belief looks play a somewhat important roll in attracting women? and thanks for the advice im going to keep this in mind
 

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DB12 said:
So contrary to popular belief looks play a somewhat important roll in attracting women? and thanks for the advice im going to keep this in mind
Looks play a HUGE role in attracting women. If the girl doesn't find you physically attractive she wouldn't even let you in the door to game her. And if you do start to game her from jump and she doesn't find you attractive then to her your a "creep"
 
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