Luminescence
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Anyone have tips for dealing with smart ass douche's trying to undermine your social value and status?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Dealing with alpha wannabe challengers?
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
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Yeah. Honestly, context is everything... It's hard to give advice when we got nothing to work with.
Well, when I HAVE TO deal with douchebags, I like to just start a conversation and ask questions. Keep it cool and collected. Eventually, they trip themselves up by saying something stupid that makes them look like a big *******. Just gotta give them a chance.
You don't want to be aggressive and make the other guy look like a threat. You also don't want to agree with them or relate, or you might be dragged down as well. Just be diplomatic and say as little as possible!
Hope that helps. I know it's kinda vague... but I like to do things on the fly. Not much thinking.
You don't want to be aggressive and make the other guy look like a threat. You also don't want to agree with them or relate, or you might be dragged down as well. Just be diplomatic and say as little as possible!
Hope that helps. I know it's kinda vague... but I like to do things on the fly. Not much thinking.
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slaog said:Your first and main mistake is caring what they say or what people think.
Definitely the most adaptive response. It's the only thing that works every time, but it's less satisfying than directly putting them down in return.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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Well to be more specific, I'm talking about the type of individual who in a social setting seems to consciously make an effort to present himself as your superior by invalidating you.Sturmblitz said:
If you can't picture any scenarios resembling the above, then perhaps the advice you can provide will not be worth this response.
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Woah bud, I wasn't being a smartass, I'm just trying to offer some help... Giving a few details would never hurt.
That being said, you should respond to said wannabe alpha with coolness and indifference. You can't get worked up about it and get frustrated and confrontational, because then you're allowing him to control your emotions. At the same time, you can't just sit there and let him treat you like a *****. If he makes a kind of smartass remark, stand your ground, but don't be aggressive, because that shows that you feel threatened by him. You've gotta be cool; he's nothing to you. Just give him a smirk or scoff at him, or roll your eyes and just laugh at him when he tries to be boastful. Make it seem like you're just having to put up with his silly antics. Say something to bring him down from his self-proclaimed pedestal, something to diffuse his ego.
Or, a less satisfying alternative, is you can befriend him.
That being said, you should respond to said wannabe alpha with coolness and indifference. You can't get worked up about it and get frustrated and confrontational, because then you're allowing him to control your emotions. At the same time, you can't just sit there and let him treat you like a *****. If he makes a kind of smartass remark, stand your ground, but don't be aggressive, because that shows that you feel threatened by him. You've gotta be cool; he's nothing to you. Just give him a smirk or scoff at him, or roll your eyes and just laugh at him when he tries to be boastful. Make it seem like you're just having to put up with his silly antics. Say something to bring him down from his self-proclaimed pedestal, something to diffuse his ego.
Or, a less satisfying alternative, is you can befriend him.
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