Day Game - Where to Start?

[Jagellion]

Hello Dear Don Juans,

I am starting the day game for the first time in my life, and I genuinely believe it will boost my confidence and increase the number of plates I am currently spinning. Can you tell me where to start?

Thanks & Regards,

 

[SW15]

We need to figure out your starting point, which depends on your past experiences.

You are 25 years old. How long have you been attracting-seducing women? Most men get their first notches between 15-19, so you might have 6-10 years of seduction experience by now. Your notch count likely depends on your LTR history at this point.

Do you live in at least a mid-sized area? Population of 150,000+. Men who are 25+ and no longer enrolled school need an area with 150,000+ to have enough choices in doing either massive stranger approach techniques (day or night game), swiping, or sending out a high volume of DMs on social media.

Have you been a primarily night game approacher in the past 5 years or a primarily tech-based seducer?

Approaching women in non-bar venues is a good form of game and a form of game that is sustainable over an extended period. However, it is also a difficult form of game. Daygame has been the most niche form of game as compared nightlife venue approach, tech-based approach, or social circle game. Not that many men have the ability and the courage to approach a woman in a non-bar venue, chat her up for a few minutes, and arrange a date. This was even true in the 1970s-1990s, when men's testosterone levels were higher than they are today.

Daygame has a ton of rejection. Most women will simply give you lousy body language to discourage an approach, similar to how they do it with homeless men panhandling. The next highest percentage of women will barely engage with you, ending your approach within 30 seconds. What I described is true of a normie level guy doing daygame, which I have done. My photos have rated in the high 6s/low 7s online, so that would mean I'm about a 7 in the Looks component of an SMV. If you can get improve your looks to the 8-8.5 range, you can reduce your initial rejections, either through being ignored or barely engaged with.

Which venues do you want to daygame? I would recommend retail venues as compared to outdoor venues. The pandemic and indoor masking made indoor retail approaching (malls, bookstores, grocery stores, etc.) much more difficult for ~2 years. Things only started to get better with that since about mid-2022. Gym approaching is another option, but the general gym floor is difficult due to earbuds. Fitness classes are an option to eliminate the earbud problem and they offer some of the best options in terms of male-female ratios in game. A lot of women are not very sociable before/after classes depending on the gym/studio. The most social women I've seen at fitness classes are at high end studios and often 35 or 40+ women being social with each other.

 

[Jagellion]

Well, for five years, I had a LTR. Occasionally I was cheating but I was blue-pill as f... My true experience on seducing started during my Master's Degree and currently ongoing. My notch count is only 9 so far, which is below-average of what red pill guy should have. I am currently living in comparatively small city (not in my home country) , with 2 million population, but most of it are foreign workers (Philipinos, Indians etc).
I am better at one-on-one conversations compared to online approach because it does not attract me to talk to girls over the phone or through messages. I am using technology to schedule dates only.

If I think about the last five girls I have met, I have been approached twice in the previous month, one at a local Starbucks cafe and once at a metro station, and I met with another girl in Starbucks, one of my friends' friends and one night club. So, if you disregard my Starbucks approach, I rarely do day games. Currently, I am only spinning two plates which are honestly 6 SMV, and I am not even attracted to hang out with them anymore due to repetition.

I want to approach girls on the street, in malls etc., but not the gym because the area has become my safe zone. I have friendly girls, and I spent one hour of my life there five days per week. I know they are hot, but the only way to hit a gym girl would be to hit their friends while we are out having a coffee or dinner.

Approaching girls in bars or clubs is easy for me. But the ones I am attracted to are in everyday life and I can say that they do not give you much time to approach, you have a maximum five second before they pass by you.

I am looking for your suggestions, thanks for taking time and explaining comprehensively.

 

[NealIRC]

Response from the 35 year-old virgin incel.

I do day game over night game. Can't do night game cuz nightclubs are dark, loud music (can't hear your own voice) so therefore day game.

For me, it's beaches. Hispanic girls won't go there solo but White women do. Earlier in the day less crowded, gets crowded more towards sunset.

 

[SW15]

My notch count is only 9 so far, which is below-average of what red pill guy should have.

For age 25, a notch count of 9 is above average by United States standards.

Well, for five years, I had a LTR. Occasionally I was cheating but I was blue-pill as f...

5 years is a long time for an LTR. Your seduction skill was good even if you were blue pill as you got other women while being in an LTR.

I am currently living in comparatively small city (not in my home country) , with 2 million population, but most of it are foreign workers (Philipinos, Indians etc).

There's a good quantity of population there.

I am better at one-on-one conversations compared to online approach because it does not attract me to talk to girls over the phone or through messages. I am using technology to schedule dates only.

It's good you are focused on in-person approaching.

I have been approached twice in the previous month,

That's good. I am in my late 30s and have been approached by a woman less than 15 times. The last time I was approached by a woman, she was at least 15 years older.


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I got into daygame by reading Roosh's "Day Bang" not long after it was published in 2011. Roosh converted to Christianity in 2019 and unpublished all of his seduction manuals from the 2000s-2010s.

The Krauser-Torero "London Daygame Model" is a good source of information. Krauser has 2 daygame books, including "Daygame Mastery". "Daygame Mastery" is a bit expensive but less expensive than many other things, including being blue pilled and getting divorced.

There are multiple YouTube channels with daygame content, including Playing With Fire.

 

[Jagellion]

Thanks for the response Neal, but this city is sweltering and will get hotter during summer time, the closest girl I will see on a beach will be a roasted chicken.

It looks like your experience talks SW15, I have just downloaded day bang and can't believe I missed this book lol! Let's see how it goes.

I will give you my field reports after I do enough day game approaches.

Best Regards,

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Hello Dear Don Juans,

I am starting the day game for the first time in my life, and I genuinely believe it will boost my confidence and increase the number of plates I am currently spinning. Can you tell me where to start?

Thanks & Regards,

That is the good thing about day game; you can start ANYWHERE.

My main hunting area for day game is grocery stores.

But in route to the grocery store, I saw a cute chick at the bus stop...so I pull over and approach her.

But before I carry on to the grocery store, I have to get gas.

When I pull up at the pump, I notice another cutie also at a pump getting gas...so I approach her.

I go inside the gas station to grab some snacks and pay for gas, and I notice the clerk has some big ass titties, so I holla at her too.

So, that is three targets, and I didn't even get to my destination yet.

That is why I love day game.

I like the natural, candid appeal to it.

I said all that to say again, you can start ANYWHERE.

 

[RazorRambo24]

Don't hit the big clubs to begin with. This will probably shatter some of your confidence as you may not understand the dynamics of how club game works/superficialities of women, especially ones who are on a level 10 high from inebriation and attention.

Try small loungey bars that have a live dj and a dance floor. This might be your best starting point that is practical and can be done routinely enough for you to develop experience. If you have a friend you can go out with, even better. I wouldn't bother solo gaming at bars and clubs until you're experienced in going out first... It can be hard to open sets as a solo dude or to prove social value.

If you're comfortable talking to people in ordinary situations and while sober, malls are good, but not quite as good as beaches, music festivals, concerts, other events where people are all there for a common reason. College campuses are some of the BEST places to talk to women. If you're not in college though def act like you are and just be like "yeah im only taking 1 class here to finish off my credits" or w.e to not give off creep vibes.