"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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David DeAngelo's war against don juans

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milrenkb said:
Are you refering to the guys on www.bristollair.com and the people who post articles on sosuave.com?
I'm mainly refering to the various pick up products produced by these gurus
I'm not familar with that site dude so I cant really comment to much about it. But it looks pretty good Bro.
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I can only say with some gurus you get you money worth with others you get alot of fluff talk with only a few gold nuggets of usable information. I think thats probably the main difference.

In my opinion Mystery seems to have alot more practical useful stuff that some of the others. With de Angelo's "Mastery with Women" IMO I didnt get a whole lot of value from it. Its a whole lot of fluff talk. Most of the stuff he talks about can be found on self help books. Not to mention the recordings are basically stuff he has talked about on stage during his comedy act etc.
IMO with Jeffrie's material most of the usable information (eg in the Washington D.C tapes )could be condense all into one video instead of 5 or 6. He also sells old material using can patterns but he doesnt let you know you can just get his new stuff which makes all the old stuff obsolete. (Of course he doesnt mention which stuff are obsolete) He talks alot of irrelevent information too on his videos.... maybe to kill time.

*It seems very few gurus will actually show footage of THEMSELVES doing a public demo on how their method is supoose to be done. No actors. No captive volunteers. Just raw unrehearse public footages.
 
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I dont think anyone wants incomplete or fragmented information. I presume most would want enough information that they can go out in the field immediately and start putting it into use. And see the results for themselves.
 

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He's just helping out both genders with their love life.
I thinks that's great. The guy has done his research, knows what he's talking about and makes good products.
I owe most of my succes to this guy. He changed my life with that stuff and I don't see why you'd want to hate him for helping out women as well.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I responded to the original subject of this thread.
A war against DJ's. You've got to be kidding me.
 

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Hey no problem Holland.

I'm curious which De Angelo product did you get? The one I got "Mastery With Women" I didnt really find it too useful (most of I already got from self improvement books). The "Body Language" one was somewhat useful but I felt it lacked an instep study of kino.
 
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