"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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milrenkb said:
Are you refering to the guys on www.bristollair.com and the people who post articles on sosuave.com?
I'm mainly refering to the various pick up products produced by these gurus
I'm not familar with that site dude so I cant really comment to much about it. But it looks pretty good Bro.
 
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I can only say with some gurus you get you money worth with others you get alot of fluff talk with only a few gold nuggets of usable information. I think thats probably the main difference.

In my opinion Mystery seems to have alot more practical useful stuff that some of the others. With de Angelo's "Mastery with Women" IMO I didnt get a whole lot of value from it. Its a whole lot of fluff talk. Most of the stuff he talks about can be found on self help books. Not to mention the recordings are basically stuff he has talked about on stage during his comedy act etc.
IMO with Jeffrie's material most of the usable information (eg in the Washington D.C tapes )could be condense all into one video instead of 5 or 6. He also sells old material using can patterns but he doesnt let you know you can just get his new stuff which makes all the old stuff obsolete. (Of course he doesnt mention which stuff are obsolete) He talks alot of irrelevent information too on his videos.... maybe to kill time.

*It seems very few gurus will actually show footage of THEMSELVES doing a public demo on how their method is supoose to be done. No actors. No captive volunteers. Just raw unrehearse public footages.
 
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I dont think anyone wants incomplete or fragmented information. I presume most would want enough information that they can go out in the field immediately and start putting it into use. And see the results for themselves.
 

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He's just helping out both genders with their love life.
I thinks that's great. The guy has done his research, knows what he's talking about and makes good products.
I owe most of my succes to this guy. He changed my life with that stuff and I don't see why you'd want to hate him for helping out women as well.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I responded to the original subject of this thread.
A war against DJ's. You've got to be kidding me.
 

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Hey no problem Holland.

I'm curious which De Angelo product did you get? The one I got "Mastery With Women" I didnt really find it too useful (most of I already got from self improvement books). The "Body Language" one was somewhat useful but I felt it lacked an instep study of kino.
 
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