Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/user/getaltitude
Thought you guys would find this relatively interesting.
Kudos,
Matt
Thought you guys would find this relatively interesting.
Kudos,
Matt
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
David DeAngelo To Come Out With Internet Marketing Program
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Bonhomme
Master Don Juan
His internet marketing is pretty effective.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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It doesn't mean he is a fraud.NickBe said:
When somebody teaches men how to get attractive women and then releases a new program teaching women how to get hot men it doesn't sit well with me.
Then there is the fact that most of his **** is common sense he regurgitated from some other seduction guru and what isn't just does not work.
Then there is the fact that most of his **** is common sense he regurgitated from some other seduction guru and what isn't just does not work.
Gangster Of Love
Master Don Juan
NickBe,
Why don't you share with us who are interested all your internet marketing secrets and show us how to scam people on the net, for free, that way we don't have to give money to David D.
Why don't you share with us who are interested all your internet marketing secrets and show us how to scam people on the net, for free, that way we don't have to give money to David D.
So you assume all internet marketing is a scam? no such thing as a legitimate internet business?
My books are sold on amazon.com (no they are not internet marketing guides) kind of hard to scam people by selling books on Amazon.com, Isn't it?
They key to internet marketing is emails, legally obtained through a opt-in e-mail list. '
I couldn't agree with you more Roullete even though he is a fraud he is a marketing genius.
My books are sold on amazon.com (no they are not internet marketing guides) kind of hard to scam people by selling books on Amazon.com, Isn't it?
They key to internet marketing is emails, legally obtained through a opt-in e-mail list. '
I couldn't agree with you more Roullete even though he is a fraud he is a marketing genius.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Yet another sad case of a close minded individual.NickBe said:
So many people have this mindset that seduction gurus are all frauds and are all just in it to scam people's money.
Yes, they are greedy, but that doesn't mean they are all fraud, and that they are not effective.
Man you are 15 years old you do not understand the ways of the world. You probably do not even know how to shave. You are probably still a virgin...
Not all seduction gurus are frauds but a guy who teaches men how to get hot women and then teaches women how to get hot men is a fraud. He is playing both sides of the fence and even he knows its wrong otherwise he would not have used another pseudonym when he begun to teach women how to get men.
He is not a seduction guru he is a marketing guru and a great one. I actually learned a few things from him as far as marketing goes.
The stuff in his books is common sense and a lot of it just doesn't work but I am sure it works on the 15 year old girls you go for.
Not all seduction gurus are frauds but a guy who teaches men how to get hot women and then teaches women how to get hot men is a fraud. He is playing both sides of the fence and even he knows its wrong otherwise he would not have used another pseudonym when he begun to teach women how to get men.
He is not a seduction guru he is a marketing guru and a great one. I actually learned a few things from him as far as marketing goes.
The stuff in his books is common sense and a lot of it just doesn't work but I am sure it works on the 15 year old girls you go for.
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As I've been espousing the years I've been here, Deangelo is a snake oil salesman. Nothing more. He does not field test his "material" (which is just stuff he's rewritten and reorganized by those he's interviewed). Watch any of his products and tell me if he doesn't read everything from his laptop or teleprompter.
Go on check it out, I'll wait . . .
{{whistling to myself . . .tapping my feet listening to Tool}}
Oh, you're back already? Told you. Anyone who is a teacher and instructor who is schooled in his own information is congruent with it in body and mind. Deangelo is none of those.
What I'll give Mystery is that he does know what he's talking about. He doesn't need to stare at a laptop and regurgitate what he's reading.
NickBe, pay no attention to Deangelo's drones who are mere sheeple and content to live as followers with no balls.
Go on check it out, I'll wait . . .
{{whistling to myself . . .tapping my feet listening to Tool}}
Oh, you're back already? Told you. Anyone who is a teacher and instructor who is schooled in his own information is congruent with it in body and mind. Deangelo is none of those.
What I'll give Mystery is that he does know what he's talking about. He doesn't need to stare at a laptop and regurgitate what he's reading.
NickBe, pay no attention to Deangelo's drones who are mere sheeple and content to live as followers with no balls.
NickBe,
How long have you been running your business?
How much time to do you invest in it?
What is it about and how much do you make from it?
I don't think he's a fraud. I learned a lot from some of his programs and books. Some of the later programs suck, because it's just repeating the same ol stuff and a lot of filler material.
But then again, his first advanced series is a good product and teaches guys the foundations of attracting women and the guest speakers are also pretty inspirational.
After you got it, there is not so much to learn from it anymore, but again it's for starting AFC's. Why bother to get into much material if you already got the skills down...
I've never bought into any marketing tricks or anything, I rarely buy things, unless the content of the material is very interesting and even then I prefer to find the stuff elsewhere for free (like a library, the internet or talking to people about it). If something is really valuable, then I buy it.
But I can see how many other people won't and buy all his products and end up disappointed when they keep running into the same materials presented just a little bit different.
I don't think that makes Mr Pagan a fraude. It makes the people who buy all his products stupid tools.
How long have you been running your business?
How much time to do you invest in it?
What is it about and how much do you make from it?
I don't think he's a fraud. I learned a lot from some of his programs and books. Some of the later programs suck, because it's just repeating the same ol stuff and a lot of filler material.
But then again, his first advanced series is a good product and teaches guys the foundations of attracting women and the guest speakers are also pretty inspirational.
After you got it, there is not so much to learn from it anymore, but again it's for starting AFC's. Why bother to get into much material if you already got the skills down...
I've never bought into any marketing tricks or anything, I rarely buy things, unless the content of the material is very interesting and even then I prefer to find the stuff elsewhere for free (like a library, the internet or talking to people about it). If something is really valuable, then I buy it.
But I can see how many other people won't and buy all his products and end up disappointed when they keep running into the same materials presented just a little bit different.
I don't think that makes Mr Pagan a fraude. It makes the people who buy all his products stupid tools.
Hey Karma yeh I agree he definitely does not field test his material.
2) At the start five days per week or so, but i worked from home so it wasn't that bad. Right now maybe a few hours per week or when i need to get somethign done I will work a whole week out of the month.
3) I teach people something I do not want to get into any details. I am well know in that business and I rather remain anonymous. I make a lot from it do not want to get into specifics but right now I am worth just under one million dollars. By years end I think i will break the million dollar barrier.
1) Just over two and a half years.
2) At the start five days per week or so, but i worked from home so it wasn't that bad. Right now maybe a few hours per week or when i need to get somethign done I will work a whole week out of the month.
3) I teach people something I do not want to get into any details. I am well know in that business and I rather remain anonymous. I make a lot from it do not want to get into specifics but right now I am worth just under one million dollars. By years end I think i will break the million dollar barrier.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I think people confuse the message with the messenger. Like, if he's in a new business, then they aren't going to be successful with women.
I don't read his newsletters much anymore, but I do get his interviews with dating gurus cds, which I have gotten much from.
I don't read his newsletters much anymore, but I do get his interviews with dating gurus cds, which I have gotten much from.
Absolutely. I'm not a fan of his seduction material and I don't believe he's all that successful with women, but there's no denying that he makes a fvcking fortune from it and that all comes down to great marketing!Bonhomme said:
If you watch his first video in this series, you can see his marketing strategy in motion. It sounds like he's sharing a great secret with the viewer, he's making a lot of promises and really hyping up his strategy ("80 employees", "20 million").
He's also getting the viewer to relate to what he's saying to the point where they're thinking "this makes sense" or "this is what I've been looking for". And on top of it all, he's making it sound easy.
The genius of it is, there is nothing in the video that indicates him asking for your custom. Obviously, he wants your money, but he's making it sound like he's the one doing you the favour...like he's the prize! Sound familiar?
It leaves you wanting more of this stuff, and yet he hasn't actually shared any useful info at all. It's all just hype
He's also getting the viewer to relate to what he's saying to the point where they're thinking "this makes sense" or "this is what I've been looking for". And on top of it all, he's making it sound easy.
The genius of it is, there is nothing in the video that indicates him asking for your custom. Obviously, he wants your money, but he's making it sound like he's the one doing you the favour...like he's the prize! Sound familiar?
It leaves you wanting more of this stuff, and yet he hasn't actually shared any useful info at all. It's all just hype
DYD makes $20 million dollars per year. Since Eben's products are digital or just CD's, the overhead is extremely little. That $20 million is pretty much pure profit. He's got about 50 employees who all work remotely from home... but that's nothing considering he probably pays them peanuts.Jariel said:
Kudos,
Matt
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.