Scaramouche
Master Don Juan
Dear Julie Baby,
For what it is worth you have my respect.
For what it is worth you have my respect.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Dating women wealthier than you
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Julius_Seizeher
Master Don Juan
It's worth alot, Scara.Scaramouche said:
It means alot to me when my elders, whose character and experience I hold in high regard, show mutual respect. Makes you think you're doing something right.
Julius was spitting out a lot of truth in this thread till a captain save a ho had to come and stop him.
When it comes to dealing with women with more money than you it doesn't matter until YOU MESS UP AND MAKE YOURSELF LOOK WEAKER AND LESS IMPORTANT THAN HER!
We have to remember that women are hardwired to look to men as their leader. If a woman is with you it's because she saw some qualities in you which make her want to be led by you in a relationship.
She could have millions of dollars and all you have is your game, but if your game is good enough she will see you as a good catch, rather than seeing herself as a good catch for you due to all her money.
But the moment you make her more important than yourself just cause she is higher on the social ladder that's when you lose.
This is why a**holes and jerks are so successful with professional, high salary women. The women may have all their degrees, high paying jobs and money but these guys still treat them like sh*t like they do to all other women. These guys never make any woman feel more important than them, and that's something every man should learn from the "bad boys."
Never treat a woman any better or differently because of her wealth. You will stand out from every other guy she's come in contact with. In fact don't even mention her wealth, never bring it up, ignore it. Treat her like she's your average 9-5 worker, treat her normal.
When it comes to dealing with women with more money than you it doesn't matter until YOU MESS UP AND MAKE YOURSELF LOOK WEAKER AND LESS IMPORTANT THAN HER!
We have to remember that women are hardwired to look to men as their leader. If a woman is with you it's because she saw some qualities in you which make her want to be led by you in a relationship.
She could have millions of dollars and all you have is your game, but if your game is good enough she will see you as a good catch, rather than seeing herself as a good catch for you due to all her money.
But the moment you make her more important than yourself just cause she is higher on the social ladder that's when you lose.
This is why a**holes and jerks are so successful with professional, high salary women. The women may have all their degrees, high paying jobs and money but these guys still treat them like sh*t like they do to all other women. These guys never make any woman feel more important than them, and that's something every man should learn from the "bad boys."
Never treat a woman any better or differently because of her wealth. You will stand out from every other guy she's come in contact with. In fact don't even mention her wealth, never bring it up, ignore it. Treat her like she's your average 9-5 worker, treat her normal.
sodbuster
Master Don Juan
Never been in the service[dad was a sergeant,told me it would be a waste of time for me...whatever THAT meant],was a farmboy[out in 40 below if it needed to be done],want to Dental School[my own version of hell]. Fire forges the steel in a man,what is coming economically speaking in the future will either forge men or kill them.
Semper Fi Julius [not sure I deserve to say it,but you've earned it].
Semper Fi Julius [not sure I deserve to say it,but you've earned it].
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Somewhere Liberace is smiling.Scaramouche said:
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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You know who gets all worked up like this? Chicks.Julius_Seizeher said:
No one who has any sense whatsoever puts stock in an internet fist pumper. There are MEN here who've met me in real life (not your Fantasy Island "Hoo-rah" macho bullsh!t), who know I've changed men's lives for ever, for their better.
Piss on you and your boasting. The only thing you've beaten is your c0ck. These girls may find your sh!t entertaining; I find it pathetic and normal.
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There's truth to this.f283000 said:
But. It's nothing new. You regurgitate sh!t every man who's experienced life, women, and relationships have already experienced.
Wait, Is this Deangelo's latest program for his flock to feast on?
Make sure you ladies rep each other for more green dots. They're as real as your *hugs* and hand-holding.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
can't say that i have honestly. my mohter makes a bit of money, she's not rigch or anythin but abou 120-150k a year something like that. the men she dates I have found.. they don't make that much, but... they have careers and are very confident in themselves in that part of life at least. her current boyfriend for instance, is a retired air force engineer. I mean he does well for himself, just not that well, but at the same time.. it's the type of job, that, you can't say he sucks or anything, that's just how much he makes lol. he is very smart, i actually like him alot. very confident in himself, but my mother happens to just make a little bit more money then he does.
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I've dated 3 that made more money than me. Yep the same dj principles apply to them as ones who make less. One of those 3 made more money than me and appeared to have it all. She had a $60,000 vehicle, $400,000 house, pool, hottub, boat and was months away from losing it all.
I'd say the same guys that have a problem with women who are taller than them also have a problem with women who make more money than them. ;-)
I'd say the same guys that have a problem with women who are taller than them also have a problem with women who make more money than them. ;-)
sodbuster
Master Don Juan
As long as I'm making mine, I don't care one way or the other. As long as I have my office, I can leave at a moments notice. BUT I'd never be in a relationship where she has control of the money and the puzzy.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
i'll probably be the odd one out here. every girl ive been with has made more money than me. that's because ive been a bum half my life. im a bit messed up but i wont get into that. i can pretty much say that it doesnt change anything being with a wealthy woman. i treat them the same as anyone. they arent better than me just cause they have money. there is one good side to it though. they seem to pay for everything mostly. i dont drive either. ive had girls pick me up, drop me off, pay for the movie ticket, buy dinner, you name it. the relationships all went well. a few lost interest in me, probably because of me not having money/job. the girl im with at the moment though, she drives to see me almost every night. takes me out places, pays for me. i dont ask for money or no favors. i even offer to pay sometimes with the very little money i have but she insists on paying instead. oh well! so really, it doesnt matter if they are wealthier. we are all human.
Andy_Dufresne
Senior Don Juan
sodbuster said:
In the past I've had relationships with a couple of women who were in the "old money" category; they seemed to be numb to the drama because they had experienced it their whole lives. For instance, one had a brother who had been married six times. When I heard this, my response was, "That's insane! I wouldn't share that with too many people..."
I think the same rules apply for all relationships. Have your own life, take care of yourself, be happy and confident, lead, ALWAYS be able to walk away whether they're a Wal-Mart greeter or a Kardashian. See women for who they are, work past their b^tch shields regardless of looks and money.