"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Dating in the Work Place

octane_orphan

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Hey all, after some advice......

Currently working as a full time manager in an open plan office environment of about 20 staff. One of which is def a HB8/9, is my age, similar backgrounds, she is also same level of seniority as me within the office. We get on well etc but I am unsure whether to ask her out.

Does anyone have any experience of this? There was a statistic that 65% of people meet their partner in the work place (Don’t have oneitus!) so that a bonus … whats the down side? Bit worried about it not working out and having to see her everyday.

Anyone have any experience of this?

Sorry did a search and can find little to no info on this subject.

Ta

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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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DJDamage

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Unless you are willing to lose your job don't do it. It might be true that 65% of people meet their partner in the workplace but they didn't tell you that about 80% of all relationships don't go anywhere. Meaning that it is more likely that this relationship will end sometimes in the near future then for you to get married to her.

From Experience I can tell you that if you fall in love with her and she dumps you for another guy in the office and its a job that you love/need, it makes things hard going to work everyday and relieving the hurt everyday instead find a woman outside of work and when and if it will be over you won't have to see her ever again.

Not to mention if she ends up being the revengeful type, she will make your life misreable and you could be dismissed for sexual harassment. The pitfalls are bigger and greater then the rewards.
 

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... I didnt mention that I am currently going through the recruitment process for a job in London. I am wondering whether just to ask her out and even if she says no it no great loss. If she says yes then I will deal with it as it come of i get the london job or not. She seams a sensible girl and I dont think she would want grief or ackwardness either ...
 

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I would just go for it mate, yes it could go badly, but it could also go really well!! plus, you'll never know unless you try.
 

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i cant believe i would even have to say this to a dude 6 years older then me, but as the saying goes "Dont dip your pen in the company inkwell".
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I think that would be true if you used alot of ink! ... ie you where the organisational don juan hitting on anyone with a pulse ... I am surprised someone your age knew what a inkwell was ;) lol
 

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Contrary to all rules, I am in an LTR with someone my same level in a large firm (I'm a lawyer).

We never work together and never would.

The critical issue is to remember what's said above about what happens if it doesn't work out and she ends up with someone else. If that pulls your heartstrings, don't do it.

Sexual harrasment claims are probably more widely feared than they are actually made, but I assume that you know the girl enough to know whether she's a wack job or not (again, a judgment call).

As to the revenge angle, again its a matter of the quality of woman.
 

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Sound like a similar situation.

I dont work with her just in the same office, dont think there will be any chance of use working together as we both work on different projects.

She is smart, classy and not what i would call the emotionally unstable type or revengeful type ... i have been there :s

Cant see her dating anyone else in the office as it female dominated and all the blokes are either married, alot older or both :)

F--k it I will ask her ... I am actually looking forward to this now :) ... Game on ;)
 

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1) If she's below you, then she could be accused of sleeping her way to the top

2) If she's above you, then you could be accused

3) If you break up on bad terms, watch the rumours and sexual harrassment lawsuits fly

4) If you break up on good terms, you can also watch the rumours fly
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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bread.....

Hey,

Don't put your meat where you get your bread.

cave dweller
 

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I should add that I've been perpetually inclined to find another job since I've been here (playing the Challenge can work in the office too), so if it didn't work out with her, I can and am happy to go someplace else.
 
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