"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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[DATING]HighSchool. Wall of TEXT. Help needed.

ConfusedHSer

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So I've been lurking these forums for quite some time now, and I need some help.
I have a few key inquiries that I haven't been finding answers to.
So some background information I'm average-above average looking, good grades, arts, etc so I have the basic materials.
However I have pretty horrible social skills seeing as a couple years back I was a basement gaming nerd, I decided to take incentive and start working out and quitting meaningless tasks like gaming altogether.
So fast forward into current time, I'm doing okay with women had my first girlfriend break up with me a couple months ago due to my idiocy and lack of knowledge. I decided to go look around for some help online.

So------
Usually when I start talking with girls we have a quick conversation in real life, they add me on Facebook we chat a bit and they give me their MSN and number (without me asking).
We talk on MSN once or twice (I make sure I don't contact them first, and when we do talk I keep it brief).
Eventually they want to meet up again (they're pretty much asking me on a date, but they don't call it that), and tryyyyyyyyy and keep the conversation going and try and put in some C&C and kino, but I don't think I'm doing it right.
Could I have some example scenarios and lines that you've used (just to see what they look like).
Also when we go out to eat am I supposed to pay? I'm not sure if it's a formal date (but it's just me and a girl and she asked me to go out with her). I usually just partially pay for them, for example the bill comes to like 22.50, I'll be like just give me a 10 and I'll get the bill.

Is this right?
Can I have some more tips?
I've read through most of the DJ bible, but are there any other reccomended articles I can read?
I realize asking online is stupid, but this site seems to work.
NOTE: Younger ages-- age 16-18. :wave:
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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NorwegianDJ

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Can you elaborate and state what you want more clearly? So first of, you want to read what DJ_Hero showed you, that's good stuff. Natural game is the way to go.
And looks will only get you so far. Grades are just another limiting belief that has come with social conditioning. Grades don't matter to girls, do it for yourself.
I was a hardcore gamer myself, so I can relate. What games? :D

Okay so I just get lost in this part of your post. Please organize yourself. It looks to me as you are rambling on about how chicks like you. If you are posting this for advice, state your questions more clearly. It seems that you have high value or the chicks are desperate. What it is is up to you to figure out. And yeah, you pay half n half.

I think you just have self-esteem issues. I think that you look better than you say you do, due to lack of confidence (atleast I used to be like that). Just start believing in yourself, and things will fall in place for you.

I believe pick-up lines are bull****, however I use some when I feel like it. It's spontaneus, and not planned. I suggest that you read through the HS forum, the main forum doesn't really contain anything worth reading. Dig a little in the archive and find some old goldbits. Find Fingers weapons of mass seduction down there, It's a great read.
Tell us how it goes.
 

ConfusedHSer

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Thanks :)
I may have a slight self esteem issue, but I don't show it and keep it deep down.
Well at this age, we don't have a lot of money, a car, .etc so contact can't always be as spontaneous as I'd like it to be.

Basically I'm looking for some average people sharing some of their experiences, scenarios and example conversations (brief and paraphrased is fine).
:) Thank you two for the responses, I'll get into reading those articles as soon as possible.
 
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