"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Dating Frame

Snow Plowman

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This site is one of the only seduction sites that constantly put there interactions in a dating frame. An then they wonder why the girl's "play hard to get" (What some like to call attention *****s)

The thing is your actually killing the whole attraction by putting it in a dating frame. So what are ways that your putting it in a dating frame...
1. Asking a woman out - I've noticed a lot of guys are asking women out. This isn't something that needs to be formalized. You don't have to ask her out on a formal date to the movies and all that. You turn it into a bf/gf frame and cause yourself to be in the "provider" category.

Instead of asking women out just let the whole relationship unfold. Just hangout have fun together after awhile you can decide where you want to take this relationship. Do you want her for long term, Fukbuddy, friend, pivot, whatever. For now your just hanging out and just getting to know each other.

2. Becoming Bf/Gf and you never even had sex together - This is another thing that should never happen. Sex happens quickly and is normal and natural. Once you become Bf/Gf and never even had sex together it turns sex into this big thing. Girl's can also tend to hold out on sex because they are now using it as a power. If you haven't had sex with the girl yet don't even bother thinking about trying to have a LTR with her and you haven't even had sex. Have the fun now and build the connection after sex, that way its not this big thing.

Now on the flipside of things you should just have fun and she should be watching your personality unfold. You're not commited to nothing she is just seeing how you are as a person and then sex happens. An that's when you decide what you want out of this whole interaction.

When you put the interaction in the frame that you are dating that's when she holds sex out on you and use it as a power. I've spoken to girls and asked them how long does a guy have to wait before they have sex with them. Most said a month. (It's fascinating what women can sometimes say and do) Now guys who are put into the provider frame is usually the guys who have to follow those rules. I had a friend who went out with a girl for a month and didn't fuk her. Then another friend ended up fuking her in a week because he never put it as "We are now bf/gf"

You should never be thinking, "I should ask her out to movies." Man up there is a difference when saying..."Hey I want to take you out for dinner." to "Hey I'm bored as sh!t at home get dress lets go catch a movie." Notice the sublte differences and what mindset there coming from.

A thing to keep in mind is lead her. Don't ask for permission to do anything, you lead the whole interaction. It shows dominance, your not like every other chode asking for permission.

So don't put your interaction in a dating frame. You'll end up being the provider who takes her home and kiss her at the end of your romantic date and then you leaves as she gets railed by some guy who was fun and an overall cool guy.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Yakovinho

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made some good points here.
i think that you dont need permission to ask a girl to go on a date with you make more like "you want or dont want" question.
 

sca_p

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You have some good points, however, I disagree with this one

Snow Plowman said:
2. Becoming Bf/Gf and you never even had sex together - This is another thing that should never happen. Sex happens quickly and is normal and natural. Once you become Bf/Gf and never even had sex together it turns sex into this big thing. Girl's can also tend to hold out on sex because they are now using it as a power. If you haven't had sex with the girl yet don't even bother thinking about trying to have a LTR with her and you haven't even had sex. Have the fun now and build the connection after sex, that way its not this big thing.
My girlfriend and I have been together for a little over three years and have never had sex. (We're both virgins, btw) It is by far the best relationship I've ever had.

Sex IS a big thing. It's the coming together of two people in an extremely intimate act. It's sick how now people are having sex after the first or second date, before they even really know the person, let alone love them.
 

Obsidian

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yeah, i disagree about the pre-marital sex thing, but overall this post seems very insightful. Definitely something I should try to keep in mind.

i've actually tried it both ways. The informal deal tends to be easier, but some cases require a more explicit act of asking out. Those cases generally include girls that you aren't likely to see informally so if you want to be around them at all, you have to clarify your intentions and put yourself at risk. Even in those cases, tho, informality and fun-ness are key.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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