dating around before you reach 30

[pyros]

So, do you think dating around or hooking up and meeting many women before you reach 30 is a wise idea? I mean, some people go from serious relationship to serious relationship...and then, suddenly they're 34 and they have zero or very little experience picking up women, and they've just dated/had sex with three women in their life, and now that they're single they have no idea how to get the job done, meet new women, flirt with them etc. They haven't experienced flaking, crazy women, mind games etc.

So...from an objective point of view I do consider that it is best to date round, maybe have a couple of mini serious relationship, learn pick-up stuff, red pill stuff etc, before you are 30, and then...you have enough experience/knowledge to settle and search for a very long term relationship with a quality girl, create a family etc.

Opinions?

 

[_sideways_]

U answered ur on question....

Come on pyros.

No guy ever said i wish i hadnt dated all those girls b4 settling down.

 

[Stugots26]

It's far better to date a lot of women even after you're 30.

I'm 34, established in my career, single, and a very, very eligible bachelor. I'm only getting better with age. I'm an appreciating asset.

Women are a depreciating asset. Whether or not they will ever admit it to you, they know that the Wall is coming, or they've hit it, and their looks are fading, especially as the biological clock starts pounding in their ears. They will become desperate for validation and male attention. They will be come even more desperate and pursue a Don Juan, which is why you should get as polished and poised and experienced with seduction as possible. Because even as a woman gets older and more desperate, she would still rather be alone than with all of the desperate, needy men who pursue relentlessly and repulse her.

But you should never be searching for a long term relationship. If you run your game well and tight enough, it will just happen, and be the woman's idea. She wants to just find herself in a love story that just naturally unfolds. If she wants a relationship with you, she'll let you know.

 

[TheCWord]

It's far better to date a lot of women even after you're 30.

I'm 34, established in my career, single, and a very, very eligible bachelor. I'm only getting better with age. I'm an appreciating asset.

Women are a depreciating asset. Whether or not they will ever admit it to you, they know that the Wall is coming, or they've hit it, and their looks are fading, especially as the biological clock starts pounding in their ears. They will become desperate for validation and male attention. They will be come even more desperate and pursue a Don Juan, which is why you should get as polished and poised and experienced with seduction as possible. Because even as a woman gets older and more desperate, she would still rather be alone than with all of the desperate, needy men who pursue relentlessly and repulse her.

But you should never be searching for a long term relationship. If you run your game well and tight enough, it will just happen, and be the woman's idea. She wants to just find herself in a love story that just naturally unfolds. If she wants a relationship with you, she'll let you know.

Hey Stugots. Glad to hear you got your sh-t together. I'm 4 years your junior and at a stage of my life where all my peers and cousins are getting married. There's at least two weddings a year. I'm focused on my career, dating regularly, open to an LTR but I won't settle. I am genuinely content - until I spend any amount of time around family or others who believe a person should have ticked off certain boxes by age 30. I think I'm built of titanium until I become inundated with those sad little looks, those questions about why I don't have a girlfriend, and just this general vibe that I'm this sad case in the family who is watching everyone else pass him by. I deep down don't believe that, but it's projected on to me enough that it starts to rattle my cage and really affect my wellbeing (and, worst of all, my work).

Did you ever go through that stage?

 

[Between_The_Lines]

But you should never be searching for a long term relationship. If you run your game well and tight enough, it will just happen, and be the woman's idea. She wants to just find herself in a love story that just naturally unfolds. If she wants a relationship with you, she'll let you know.

THIS

I did the exact opposite of this very piece of advice and 8 excruciating months later now find myself on this forum ...naturally

 

[Stugots26]

It might be a little different for me because I've been married and divorced. Let me tell you, I had more fun while still a PhD student during my separation and after my divorce at 29-30 fvcking 20 year old coeds than I had in my 3 years of marriage combined. It was a revolving door of hot college pvssy with teacher fantasies on my apartment. It was a slice of heaven and something to tell the other old geezers about in the nursing home in 60 years.

The institution of marriage was something that religion foisted on society back when people were living until about forty years old, so it makes sense that you're made to feel like you're doing something wrong at 30. You're not doing ANYTHING wrong. Men have the option of time, and be very wary of any girl or woman who is trying to rush you along into a commitment you can't easily get out of.

But if you look around, you'll begin to see that most people SETTLE for the relationships that they're in, and because most people do more to avoid pain then to gain pleasure, they languish in these partially fulfilling relationships, and cheat emotionally or physically, break up and get back together endlessly, etc. No wonder the divorce rate is so high.

I refuse to settle. Right now one of the women I'm seeing is a woman ten years my senior. She's a multimillionaire doctor and successful businesswoman, beautiful blonde with amazing fake tits, triathlete and yogi. She's divorced and has kids, and it's long distance, but she's doing 100% of the chasing and can't get enough of me. She worships me and the sex is some of the best I've had in my life. It's one of the relationships that spoils you, and you realize that if a woman can be this confident but relentless and shamelessly forward about her interest, you'll never settle for anything less again.

I literally do not have to contact her at all. If there's something logistical to discuss, I simply wait for her to get in touch with me and then include it in my response, and she's fine with it.

Women like that are out there, women who find you incredibly attractive, who you can have a completely effortless relationship with by letting them have the freedom to come and go at their own pace and just responding to their pursuit. Women who like you will make it obvious by opening doors for you and help you because they LIKE you, and all you have to do is walk through the doors.

 

[Rainman4707]

I want kids so my goal is finding a woman who I really like. I'm 29. Given the choice between sleeping with 9's or having a family..i choose the family.

I am keener to settle down now than when I was say 24. The clock is ticking

I can relate with what you are saying about if a woman likes you she will make it easy for you

@pyros I think it depends on what you want...some guys want different women different nights of the week...some men want to find a woman they really like & have kids with her.

 

[TheCWord]

I am keener to settle down now than when I was say 24. The clock is ticking

See, you sound like the type I'm talking about.

Clock is ticking? What clock? Women can only have children until a certain age. Women see their value plummet over time. Men? We can have kids whenever. Our value goes up as we mature, accumulate wealth, status and experience.

Tell me why I should be worried that I'm "running out of time."

 

[evan12]

if you want to settle for beautiful quality wife , then it is better to settle before 30 , but if that is not your goal then you can wait.
I think 30 is cutoff age for a lot of young beautiful women to date .

 

[Stugots26]

I want kids so my goal is finding a woman who I really like. I'm 29. Given the choice between sleeping with 9's or having a family..i choose the family.

What you call "having a family" is settling. Why settle with a woman who you don't even consider a nine? Why not keep looking and working on yourself until you find a woman who knocks your socks off and marry her?

What would you be teaching your kids with this woman? Shoot for the stars, go after your dreams, but if time is running short, just settle for the best you can do?

I'm 34 now. My value and assets will continue to rise over the rest of my thirties. I will be able to sleep with tons of beautiful women until I find one who is the one who treats me as I deserve to be treated and who I actually enjoy time with, and I can have it all with her. I refuse to settle for less than I can negotiate in life.

 

[El Payaso]

It might be a little different for me because I've been married and divorced. Let me tell you, I had more fun while still a PhD student during my separation and after my divorce at 29-30 fvcking 20 year old coeds than I had in my 3 years of marriage combined. It was a revolving door of hot college pvssy with teacher fantasies on my apartment. It was a slice of heaven and something to tell the other old geezers about in the nursing home in 60 years.

The institution of marriage was something that religion foisted on society back when people were living until about forty years old, so it makes sense that you're made to feel like you're doing something wrong at 30. You're not doing ANYTHING wrong. Men have the option of time, and be very wary of any girl or woman who is trying to rush you along into a commitment you can't easily get out of.

But if you look around, you'll begin to see that most people SETTLE for the relationships that they're in, and because most people do more to avoid pain then to gain pleasure, they languish in these partially fulfilling relationships, and cheat emotionally or physically, break up and get back together endlessly, etc. No wonder the divorce rate is so high.

I refuse to settle. Right now one of the women I'm seeing is a woman ten years my senior. She's a multimillionaire doctor and successful businesswoman, beautiful blonde with amazing fake tits, triathlete and yogi. She's divorced and has kids, and it's long distance, but she's doing 100% of the chasing and can't get enough of me. She worships me and the sex is some of the best I've had in my life. It's one of the relationships that spoils you, and you realize that if a woman can be this confident but relentless and shamelessly forward about her interest, you'll never settle for anything less again.

I literally do not have to contact her at all. If there's something logistical to discuss, I simply wait for her to get in touch with me and then include it in my response, and she's fine with it.

Women like that are out there, women who find you incredibly attractive, who you can have a completely effortless relationship with by letting them have the freedom to come and go at their own pace and just responding to their pursuit. Women who like you will make it obvious by opening doors for you and help you because they LIKE you, and all you have to do is walk through the doors.

I am in a similar relationship. In fact when I think about it, the girl practically did everything. She asked for my phone number and made it very obvious that she wanted me to ask her out.

She does all the texting, calling and what not. Always wants to buy me gifts or anything I need. If I call her at 3am in the middle of her sleep to get something, she's up and ready to go. I rarely ever have to initiate anything. What amazes me is it's been this way for almost a year now and she's still completely head over heels in love with me.

I believe it's because I set heavy boundaries right from the start and always put her in her place.

I remember way back early in the relationship. I saw her still on a dating app. I didn't say anything. However, I changed my behavior towards her and withdrew my attention. Merely using her for sex. She got upset and complained. I said "Oh, I'm sorry. I was under the impression that we weren't in a relationship."

She said "What do you mean?" I told her what I saw.

She said that she has never met anyone on it in person and that she just uses it to talk to guys because I don't text her much.

I chuckled to myself and said "That does make sense. You're right. And anytime I don't get sex or attention from you, I will seek it from other women. Thanks, babe."

She quickly started panicking and begged me that she's very sorry. She literally got on my feet and held onto it and wouldn't let me leave.

I'm a big fan of mirroring a girl's actions. It works a lot of times.

 

[TheCWord]

if you want to settle for beautiful quality wife , then it is better to settle before 30 , but if that is not your goal then you can wait.
I think 30 is cutoff age for a lot of young beautiful women to date .

That's so black & white, though. Sure, I want a beautiful wife. But my career and life is not in a place yet where I'm meeting and attracting the 9s and 10s. So you're saying when I'm making 6-7 figures in 5 years, I can't have a beautiful wife because, shoot, sorry pal, ya missed the boat?

 

[Rainman4707]

For me I see this as the right age to start looking for a family. I don't tell that to the women I date...if they ask "what I'm looking for" I just say "I go with the flow". I will then see how it progresses with that woman.

There is obviously still plenty of time for us at our age, but I'm looking now.
The older I get, the older women get unless I'm gonna get into a relationship with a woman ten years younger than me. < A lot of guys do that, but ideally I like no more than a 6 year gap.

 

[Stugots26]

Men don't have a cutoff age, and any thought to the contrary is a joke. Forty year old men can bang 22 year olds as much as they want. Just do well for yourself, focus on your career, tighten up your game, get a killer wardrobe and style, and stay in shape and the rest will come naturally.

Women have to deal with so many chumps, betas, and idiot men that it doesn't matter how old you are. If she likes you and you can simply not talk her out of liking you, you can get a woman to fall head over heels for you even if you're 20 years older than her. It won't matter.

 

[Stugots26]

And I guarantee that if you act like you're a ticking time bomb and age will rob you of your opportunity for a family, you'll consistently come across desperately and the type of women you want will eternally avoid you.

 

[Rainman4707]

@ Stugots. I don't act like a ticking time bomb because you're right they will defo sense the desperation.

I'm just not keen on having arelationship with someone 20 years younger than me. I'd use tham as a fu*k buddy, but not relationship.

 

[Rainman4707]

I want kids so my goal is finding a woman who I really like. I'm 29. Given the choice between sleeping with 9's or having a family..i choose the family.

What you call "having a family" is settling. Why settle with a woman who you don't even consider a nine? Why not keep looking and working on yourself until you find a woman who knocks your socks off and marry her?

What would you be teaching your kids with this woman? Shoot for the stars, go after your dreams, but if time is running short, just settle for the best you can do?

I'm 34 now. My value and assets will continue to rise over the rest of my thirties. I will be able to sleep with tons of beautiful women until I find one who is the one who treats me as I deserve to be treated and who I actually enjoy time with, and I can have it all with her. I refuse to settle for less than I can negotiate in life.

Good stuff here. I've been looking for the last 26 months & still looking..
Maybe I am a little eager to settle down

 

[TheCWord]

@ Stugots. I don't act like a ticking time bomb because you're right they will defo sense the desperation.

I'm just not keen on having arelationship with someone 20 years younger than me. I'd use tham as a fu*k buddy, but not relationship.

Do you remember when you started getting on in your 20s and you suddenly started finding actresses on TV in their 30s and 40s attractive? I know this happened to me. Not that I ever found them unattractive, but I've noticed now when watching certain TV shows that I am starting to salivate over some late 30s/early 40s babes! This never happened when I was, say, 16.

The point is, your tastes change as you get older. You'll like older women as you get older. You talk as if you have to a young wife otherwise you'll never be attracted to her. What about those geezers who hook up with geezer women in the retirement homes? Sure, some of it is just because they play checkers together. But that old man finds something physically attractive in that old bag.

Trust me. One day, you'll be scoping out 60 year-olds.

 

[Rainman4707]

Yeah I do find the 30/40 yearold's very attractive/fuc*able. Probs more than the 20 to 30 range. I want kids though so 30 year old women or under I'm looking at