Dating apps are dying

[GoodMan32]

The topic of whether apps are dying goes both ways: Fewer men are using apps now as well (which means less competition)

I know when I've posted on here about how online dating was easier circa 2012, I was essentially told "times have changed; you have to get with the times." Yet it would appear we're perhaps seeing a return to 2012

Anyway, I have a specific reason I chimed into this thread. I'm traveling right now. On a whim, I messaged some local woman here on Bumble. She agreed to meet up (but ultimately got cold feet an hour before the scheduled meetup). Regardless, the fact she even initially agreed to meet up is something that had never happened to me on Bumble before. Perhaps a sign of a changing market

She's fat and 20 years older than me (mentioning that because it ties into the OP's comment about "low quality"), yet for a man who's open to age gaps (and who's into fat chicks), dating apps are perhaps seeing an awakening right now

Then again, another possible factor (of why she agreed to meet up so easily, even if the meetup got revoked in the end) could be the fact I really stand out racially in the place I'm visiting, creating an exotic factor (not to mention the fact there are hardly any Caucasian men for me to compete with for the market of local ladies who want Caucasian men)

All in all, I'm willing to test out Bumble some more where I live (as well as in other places I travel to) in order to get a better feel for whether the app landscape truly is changing for the better

 

[Solomon]

Yeah, you are right it can be a skill issue but it also can be the fact that the spike of attention wh0ring spiked through the stratosphere in the last couple of years

I experienced this more and more in the last 2 years, and so do guys who are actually quite high in the pua social hierarchy .

You see more and more girls that you would not even think about approaching in the first place rejecting you, despite you not even trying to approach them

Ego got so high that girls just feel a high by rejecting a guy despite knowingly that she has no chance with him

feels more “ empowering “ to reject a guy ( even if you have no chance with him ) than to feel bad that he did not pick you

Blaming 150 matches and only 3 dates entirely on female ego spikes is just dodging accountability. That is a 2 percent conversion rate, which points directly to a lack of screening(distance, profile compatibility, etc.) and weak game.

Dating apps definitely have validation seekers, but if your numbers are that low, the problem is your approach. Swiping right on everyone just to pad match counts means you end up with low effort conversations and constant flakes. If you know how to filter properly, keep texts concise, and ask women out efficiently consistently your conversion rate should be higher. My conversion is 10% and I'm no Chad, my buddy who is a Chad's conversion rate is 25% and could be higher but he doesn't have time to meet and bang them all.

Modern dating has its frustrations, but if you are burning through 150 matches for 3 dates, you are targeting the wrong profiles and failing to build basic rapport.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@GoodMan32 "She's fat and 20 years older than me..."

Start acquiring gals chunky and 10-15 years younger than yourself, and you'll be able to honestly designate yourself Jame Gumb's modern equivalent, hoss

Just don't be as hesitant as he was, when it comes time to pull the trigger on a gal from Quantico

Eager to make a name for herself

We're all counting on you to do your part in diminishing women's empowerment. Apps are hardly the only aspects of contemporary living which require dying

 

[kavi]

Im a good looking guy IRL, there is not type of female who doesnt find me vvery attractive..

But I never did too well on apps, like the girls who give me attention and want mine IRL dont seem to want me on apps..in general..

On a speed date i went a few years ago these girls were behaving funny around me...one was a bit nervous...and she said some funny **** that had me suspicious anyway..she then goes "do you use the apps" I was like "no..i dont have man pics im not used to apps" and she was like "you would do good on them"...

it all seemed dodgy like the tone the convo how why she asked me that and said that i would do well.but im sure i dont even with some decent pics...its funny cos IRL im confident im really getting attention from women..

I started to understand though, it just clicked..on the apps the females just look at photos. one after the other...and i may not look 'sexy' or chadish cos chad gets most on apps...i started to realise women have been ignpring me for hookups and such, like a certain lok or phenotype is preferred for that...i think i mean im sure they are ignoring me on the apps..and that girl saying i would do well on apps. it was weird why would she say that to me..why would she be gracious or genersous to say that...but there was somethgin nefarious in her tone, mannerismm vibe, related to insecuriy or something...

I put it all together later on and realised she was ****ing woth me, like there is this reality she knew a guy like me who is hot enough to make her nervous IRL, this type of guy, will be ignored on the apps, she knew girls would ignore me on the apps...then said i would do well..like to **** with my head...like get one over me...

and im saying i know there is deep politics going on...cos i get weird attention crazy attenion IRL even like gasps sometimes or mlike mouth open expression sometimes when a female just sees me..

but on the apps and i know they are ostly for hookups im sure im being ignored and its something gthese women know...im a hot guy but there is something we shouldnt let his head get too big we do hookups with other typoes and keep this type down...

im sure other men are dealing with this too maybe they know it not...there is some serious conniving going on but those women at the speed date and women IRL in general see me as a scary confident guy they get nervous all this the truth it just comes out..

 

[UK manc]

Im a good looking guy IRL, there is not type of female who doesnt find me vvery attractive..

But I never did too well on apps, like the girls who give me attention and want mine IRL dont seem to want me on apps..in general..

On a speed date i went a few years ago these girls were behaving funny around me...one was a bit nervous...and she said some funny **** that had me suspicious anyway..she then goes "do you use the apps" I was like "no..i dont have man pics im not used to apps" and she was like "you would do good on them"...

it all seemed dodgy like the tone the convo how why she asked me that and said that i would do well.but im sure i dont even with some decent pics...its funny cos IRL im confident im really getting attention from women..

I started to understand though, it just clicked..on the apps the females just look at photos. one after the other...and i may not look 'sexy' or chadish cos chad gets most on apps...i started to realise women have been ignpring me for hookups and such, like a certain lok or phenotype is preferred for that...i think i mean im sure they are ignoring me on the apps..and that girl saying i would do well on apps. it was weird why would she say that to me..why would she be gracious or genersous to say that...but there was somethgin nefarious in her tone, mannerismm vibe, related to insecuriy or something...

I put it all together later on and realised she was ****ing woth me, like there is this reality she knew a guy like me who is hot enough to make her nervous IRL, this type of guy, will be ignored on the apps, she knew girls would ignore me on the apps...then said i would do well..like to **** with my head...like get one over me...

and im saying i know there is deep politics going on...cos i get weird attention crazy attenion IRL even like gasps sometimes or mlike mouth open expression sometimes when a female just sees me..

but on the apps and i know they are ostly for hookups im sure im being ignored and its something gthese women know...im a hot guy but there is something we shouldnt let his head get too big we do hookups with other typoes and keep this type down...

im sure other men are dealing with this too maybe they know it not...there is some serious conniving going on but those women at the speed date and women IRL in general see me as a scary confident guy they get nervous all this the truth it just comes out..

Pics are 2-D, real.life is 3-D.

I don't think I photo well 90% of the time but know what you mean with the daily reactions..the clearest is when you turn a corner and see each other rather than having several seconds walking towards each other where defences subtly start.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Anecdotally, I was talking to a girl yesterday who told me that three of her best friends met their boyfriends on dating apps. One is engaged, another got married just four months after meeting him, and the third is engaged and has been living with her fiancé for three years. They are all Hispanic with white men.

Interestingly, she doesn’t enjoy using dating apps herself. She’s tired of answering the same questions about 150 times, and some men don’t even look like their pictures. She also prefers Latin men over white Canadian men, but finds the apps inundated with the latter. A big part of it comes down to cultural differences. She doesn’t like certain aspects of how white Canadian men approach dating, such as splitting everything 50/50, she finds them cold, with no “flow”, and some things she hates like suggesting coffee at night instead of a glass of wine, or asking to meet somewhere rather than picking her up at her house.

Either way, it does seem like they do work for women.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I'm waiting for the day that a phallocentric dating app is released by some based programmer in Belarus rather than yet another predatory gynocentric app made by a bunch of leftists and simps in Sillicon Valley.

I'm not sure if it's ever going to happen but that would really be a phenomenal thing to witness. Hell, just a dating app that scans women's photos and forcibly lists her body type would be world-changing.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I'm waiting for the day that a phallocentric dating app is released by some based programmer in Belarus rather than yet another predatory gynocentric app made by a bunch of leftists and simps in Sillicon Valley.

I'm not sure if it's ever going to happen but that would really be a phenomenal thing to witness. Hell, just a dating app that scans women's photos and forcibly lists her body type would be world-changing.

Pretty easy just don't be ban-happy. And make it so anyone can message so she can't have as direct a pipeline to Chad than before. Avg Joe's with game can slide in to their inbox. But limit messaging so they still have manageable inboxes, just with a lower percentage of the top % guys than before. More of a mix of SMV's.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Im a good looking guy IRL, there is not type of female who doesnt find me vvery attractive..

But I never did too well on apps, like the girls who give me attention and want mine IRL dont seem to want me on apps..in general..

On a speed date i went a few years ago these girls were behaving funny around me...one was a bit nervous...and she said some funny **** that had me suspicious anyway..she then goes "do you use the apps" I was like "no..i dont have man pics im not used to apps" and she was like "you would do good on them"...

it all seemed dodgy like the tone the convo how why she asked me that and said that i would do well.but im sure i dont even with some decent pics...its funny cos IRL im confident im really getting attention from women..

I started to understand though, it just clicked..on the apps the females just look at photos. one after the other...and i may not look 'sexy' or chadish cos chad gets most on apps...i started to realise women have been ignpring me for hookups and such, like a certain lok or phenotype is preferred for that...i think i mean im sure they are ignoring me on the apps..and that girl saying i would do well on apps. it was weird why would she say that to me..why would she be gracious or genersous to say that...but there was somethgin nefarious in her tone, mannerismm vibe, related to insecuriy or something...

I put it all together later on and realised she was ****ing woth me, like there is this reality she knew a guy like me who is hot enough to make her nervous IRL, this type of guy, will be ignored on the apps, she knew girls would ignore me on the apps...then said i would do well..like to **** with my head...like get one over me...

and im saying i know there is deep politics going on...cos i get weird attention crazy attenion IRL even like gasps sometimes or mlike mouth open expression sometimes when a female just sees me..

but on the apps and i know they are ostly for hookups im sure im being ignored and its something gthese women know...im a hot guy but there is something we shouldnt let his head get too big we do hookups with other typoes and keep this type down...

im sure other men are dealing with this too maybe they know it not...there is some serious conniving going on but those women at the speed date and women IRL in general see me as a scary confident guy they get nervous all this the truth it just comes out..

it’s is possible that you are not photogenic?

and btw if you are good looking etc
Who do women tell you that you look like..ie celeb, singer ,movie star etc