"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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lol this have gone way to far.

if you want to pay girls, then pay them.

if you dont want to pay them, then dont.

IF she REALLY likes you, that wont matter anyway.

BUT, if she doesnt like you then it will matter.

and like king flex said, if they like you, they will pay you.

"YOU HAVE TO COME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH WITH GAME, BEFORE YOU COME OUT OF YOUR POCKET WITH CHANGE"

REAL CHIT
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Uh-huh...
LOL.

Hey, it's whatever works I guess, but I figure I'm gonna eat anyway so it's basically a zero-time-loss situation to go out for a bite. If she's decent maybe later we can do something that will cost time. Everyone has to give up something to get something else, and for me that amount of money sn't an issue any more, although I hear you and agree that there was a time when it was worth more.

That has thankfully passed and I hope it never comes back. If I recall correctly that was what I used to call my early 20's ..... heh.

mexican_player2 said:
lol this have gone way to far ..... if they like you, they will pay you.
Depends, but do what works for ya. Didn't sound like it worked for you though, I thought that was why you posted? Anyway, yeah, some will do that I suppose but many that would have otherwise been into you enough to split the cost fairly will think (correctly?) that you're a cheap ass low value person and move on. Partly it depends on your situation too IMO - if you have money and you both know it that's one thing, and if you DON'T have money and you both know it that's a different thing as far as I'm concerned.
 
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i just wanted to know what y'all think on this situation and how you react when it happens to you.

actually it did work for me because she wants to go out with me again AND i got to dump her ass in the trash where she belongs.

she has been calling me a lot since this date (i just tell her whats up then tell her i gotta go), she also invited me today to a club with her friends, i said i will go but i wont cause i dont care about this hungry hoe, i just wanted new friends thats all.

You see, im a man of value i know what im worth, i value myself more than i value coochie, so i feel like she disrespected me when she made me pay for her chit. she should be trying to impress me not the other way around. period.

I have money, but not for her punk ass. you should have seen her face when she saw my ride lol.

if she thinks im a cheap ass that have no value, THEN that means my game was weak.

cause i have done that with other chicks and they dont care if i didnt pay because they like me, they actually wanted to be with me, those are the girls that i want with me.

i want diamonds and for that i need to identify and throw away all the cubic zirconium.

i have a gf she is a strong 8, she is finer than this hoe and we always split bills she doesnt have a problem with that. The reason of me going out with this hoe was because i want to make new friends thats all, im not looking for some play or anything like it.
 

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mexican_player2 said:
... i feel like she disrespected me when she made me pay for her ....
Sounds like you're living the dream, good for you. Just a couple points, first she can't make you pay, what she did was convince you to pay when you didn't want to which is an entirely different thing. Keep that in mind for your second date. Secondly, and this is a personal thing you should feel free to ignore as you wish, but the shift key is easy to use and makes you look more literate as well as making your text easier to follow.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Heh, I've done the "why don't you buy me a drink" routine a few times, it was cool before EVERYONE was doing it. Maybe I'm in a rut but I sort of dig the rut I'm in if you know what I'm saying.
 

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WaterTiger said:
You mean like taking out a male co-worker/family member who's had a bad day to cheer them up, or for birthdays or something?
Nope, someone who looks interesting that you have no prior relationship with. Basically some random guy on the street/club/store that you think you'd like to know better.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Nope, someone who looks interesting that you have no prior relationship with. Basically some random guy on the street/club/store that you think you'd like to know better.
I know this isn't how you meant it, but that sounds just alarmingly flamingly flagrantly gay. Like Richard Simmons is channeling through your fingers or something.
 
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bigjohnson said:
Sounds like you're living the dream, good for you. Just a couple points, first she can't make you pay, what she did was convince you to pay when you didn't want to which is an entirely different thing. Keep that in mind for your second date. Secondly, and this is a personal thing you should feel free to ignore as you wish, but the shift key is easy to use and makes you look more literate as well as making your text easier to follow.

well let me think for a minute.... um maybe because

#1 i couldnt make her return the drink because she was already drinking it.
#2 she said she "forgot her wallet" and didnt have ANY money
 

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mexican_player2 said:
well let me think for a minute.... um maybe because

#1 i couldnt make her return the drink because she was already drinking it.
#2 she said she "forgot her wallet" and didnt have ANY money
And that's your problem ... how? If you REALLY don't want to pay then she's a big girl - let her sort it out. I mean, paying is paying and paying is bad, right? :rolleyes:
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Nope, someone who looks interesting that you have no prior relationship with. Basically some random guy on the street/club/store that you think you'd like to know better.
Ahhhh! THAT situation....

I've done it twice. I asked a guy I met at a bookstore out for coffee. We went, but he never called back afterwards.

The other (a stunningly handsome man in an Armani suit) who chucked and said he was married. (...sigh)

Neither experience left me emotionally crippled or bitter. I'm just an old fashioned girl at heart and I like to be asked for a date.
 

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WaterTiger said:
Ahhhh! THAT situation....

I've done it twice. I asked a guy I met at a bookstore out for coffee. We went, but he never called back afterwards...
Who paid for the coffee?
 
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