"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Date Tomorrow, Need Advice

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Girl wants to go to EXPENSIVE restaurant?? Need advice...

I've got a little situation here. Last week I met this foreign girl at the club and got her number. She showed extremely high interest. I called her up today and left a message. She called back in like 30 minutes and I talked to her and she was eager to set up a date for tomorrow. This seems like a helluva an easy lay. But, here's the dilemma.

She was the one who offered to go to this new club that is opening and I hadn't heard of it, but I accepted anyways figuring it was a regular dance club. But, then I found the website and it is more like a restaurant and reservations are required. She was the one who offered this and I told her I didn't know about the place so it seems to me the onus is on her to have reservations. Besides, I don't want to spend money on a nice dinner with this chick. I just wanted to put in a little time at a dance club, getting some kino in, and then go back and screw her.

Now, I am considering changing the plans on her tomorrow, but I don't want to kill the interest level. I want to make this lay happen, but I don't want to be used for money. She is a Russian girl and I've heard they can be golddiggers. She asked some questions about me being in school and when I was graduating, whether I lived with parents, and all that, but nothing really indicated she was a golddigger.

What do you think I should do?
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Only the man should dictate the how, the when, and the where!!! Never let a woman set the agenda!!! And never take a girl to a club - you go there to 'meet' girls and not 'take' girls!! tell her that you have a better idea and take her where you can spend time alone!!! She don't want to? OK, bye!!
 

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She is definately running you through a hefty checklist on success. I suppose you can "next" her as a goldigger as most guys I think will respond, but I think you should test the waters anyway just for the experience. Don't take her to this place. Change the plans decisively and firm, but don't elaborate. Tell her to dress "casual/nice" and end up doing something cheap but "romantic", like a cheesy personal ad-type date under the moon/beach whatever. Bring an $8 bottle of wine, a hunk of cheese and a blanket. he he. See what happens. Play with it.
 

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I need a good excuse to tell her in order to change plans on her without making it appear that I'm simply unwilling to spend that much money on her.
 
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Tell her you went on this website called sosuave .com and talked to some don juans and they told me not to let you set the agenda, so I am talking the bull by the horns, and I decided that a fun activity would better suit us for a first date and not a dance club with loud music - she says, "but it's not a club, it's a restaurant!" You say, "worst off, my mother told me to never talk with food in my mouth!" I rather do an activity alone together!! Lets go bowling!!!:) Any maybe for some ice cream afterwards, I only have $6 to spend!!!!:)
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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u know i read this whole thing....

and i think your decision should ultimately come down to.....

how big her cans are ;)
 

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Originally posted by coldcoal
She is definately running you through a hefty checklist on success. I suppose you can "next" her as a goldigger as most guys I think will respond, but I think you should test the waters anyway just for the experience. Don't take her to this place. Change the plans decisively and firm, but don't elaborate. Tell her to dress "casual/nice" and end up doing something cheap but "romantic", like a cheesy personal ad-type date under the moon/beach whatever. Bring an $8 bottle of wine, a hunk of cheese and a blanket. he he. See what happens. Play with it.
Yea. Be unpredictable. Change things...If she doesn't like it, you don't need her. There's another one right around the corner...
 

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From what you've said, both of you appear to be playing you're own self-centered games. So if you're only after one thing, why shouldn't she do something similar?
 

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Originally posted by NatureGuy
From what you've said, both of you appear to be playing you're own self-centered games. So if you're only after one thing, why shouldn't she do something similar?
You're 100% correct. Right now, my impression of this girl is that she's only good for sex. That might change, but it is how I currently perceive her. With that being said, I'm playing a Machiavellian game with her to get sex and spending as little money as possible on her. If she does decide to pay her half (which I'm not convinced either way if she will), then my perception will change.
 

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Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
Tell her you went on this website called sosuave .com and talked to some don juans and they told me not to let you set the agenda, so I am talking the bull by the horns, and I decided that a fun activity would better suit us for a first date and not a dance club with loud music - she says, "but it's not a club, it's a restaurant!" You say, "worst off, my mother told me to never talk with food in my mouth!" I rather do an activity alone together!! Lets go bowling!!!:) Any maybe for some ice cream afterwards, I only have $6 to spend!!!!:)
LMAO! :D
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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