"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Date ideas for thanksgiving?

lolwut

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Anyone have any good date ideas for thanksgiving?

It's our 2nd date, so probably not quite at the point of "come to my place and get comfortable" sort of thing.

Preferably somewhere outside but everything is closed except certain restaurants :(

I really want some sort of physical activity, eating is boring and unimaginative.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Here are a few you might want to consider.

1. Ice skating / Roller skating
- This is a very creative, flexible and memorable date. Pook said charm is treating a woman like a little girl. Tell her you've been looking for the perfect partner to go skating with. If it goes well, it could even become your "thing." If you convey enthusiasm, she will become excited. This (theoretically) works well as an anticipatory or spontaneous date. You'll be the creative guy she can brag to her friends about!

2. Volunteer at a soup kitchen/hospital/church
- It sounds ridiculous, but you will definitely gain points for originality. Personally, I can't stand snobbish, superficial women. This type of environment (theoretically) works well in eliciting her values and determining whether she is long-term relationship material. If she hesitates or questions you, what does that tell you? If she won't talk with the homeless/handicapped, what does that tell you? How does she dress? You should be able to find out everything you want to know about her while demonstrating all sorts of great things about yourself (mysterious, charitable, creative, sensitive)

3. Batting cages / shooting range
- Nothing like a little adventure to stimulate interest and attraction! I'm a big baseball guy, so I could understand if this doesn't appeal to you. Even if it doesn't, getting her to try new things is HUGE. Women (especially younger ones) value men who can show them new things in the world. The point here is, do something that she otherwise would never think to do.

Other ideas:
- Exotic dinner date (Thai, Mexican, Japanese)
- Comedy/improv club
- Dance lessons (line/swing/salsa/ballroom)
- Zoo/Museum
- High School play/fundraiser/sporting event
- Black Friday shopping date

Like you said, you need some sort of ACTION in the date. You also want to do something she RARELY/NEVER does with other men.

Oh! I almost forgot this and it's very important: if possible, pick out an activity related to YOUR passion. If you're a sports guy, do that. If you're a gym rat, do that. You are the MAN so you must LEAD. Lead her into your world!
 

lolwut

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Racecar said:
Oh! I almost forgot this and it's very important: if possible, pick out an activity related to YOUR passion. If you're a sports guy, do that. If you're a gym rat, do that. You are the MAN so you must LEAD. Lead her into your world!
this is gold. note taken!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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