"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Date ideas for thanksgiving?

lolwut

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Anyone have any good date ideas for thanksgiving?

It's our 2nd date, so probably not quite at the point of "come to my place and get comfortable" sort of thing.

Preferably somewhere outside but everything is closed except certain restaurants :(

I really want some sort of physical activity, eating is boring and unimaginative.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Here are a few you might want to consider.

1. Ice skating / Roller skating
- This is a very creative, flexible and memorable date. Pook said charm is treating a woman like a little girl. Tell her you've been looking for the perfect partner to go skating with. If it goes well, it could even become your "thing." If you convey enthusiasm, she will become excited. This (theoretically) works well as an anticipatory or spontaneous date. You'll be the creative guy she can brag to her friends about!

2. Volunteer at a soup kitchen/hospital/church
- It sounds ridiculous, but you will definitely gain points for originality. Personally, I can't stand snobbish, superficial women. This type of environment (theoretically) works well in eliciting her values and determining whether she is long-term relationship material. If she hesitates or questions you, what does that tell you? If she won't talk with the homeless/handicapped, what does that tell you? How does she dress? You should be able to find out everything you want to know about her while demonstrating all sorts of great things about yourself (mysterious, charitable, creative, sensitive)

3. Batting cages / shooting range
- Nothing like a little adventure to stimulate interest and attraction! I'm a big baseball guy, so I could understand if this doesn't appeal to you. Even if it doesn't, getting her to try new things is HUGE. Women (especially younger ones) value men who can show them new things in the world. The point here is, do something that she otherwise would never think to do.

Other ideas:
- Exotic dinner date (Thai, Mexican, Japanese)
- Comedy/improv club
- Dance lessons (line/swing/salsa/ballroom)
- Zoo/Museum
- High School play/fundraiser/sporting event
- Black Friday shopping date

Like you said, you need some sort of ACTION in the date. You also want to do something she RARELY/NEVER does with other men.

Oh! I almost forgot this and it's very important: if possible, pick out an activity related to YOUR passion. If you're a sports guy, do that. If you're a gym rat, do that. You are the MAN so you must LEAD. Lead her into your world!
 

lolwut

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Racecar said:
Oh! I almost forgot this and it's very important: if possible, pick out an activity related to YOUR passion. If you're a sports guy, do that. If you're a gym rat, do that. You are the MAN so you must LEAD. Lead her into your world!
this is gold. note taken!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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