"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Date her or f*ck her?

AC/DC

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Hey guys!

There's this one girl, let's call her Barbie for fun.

Barbie has been going out with her stupid jackass boyfriend for 2.5 years. Barbie meets AC/DC two years ago over AIM. They go to the movies and make out. How nice.

Fast forward to the present. After not speaking for about two years, we went to go see "Hitch", and we made out some more. She don't like her boyfriend but hasn't broken up with him yet, cuz he's kinda strange and wil prolly go crazy and break stuff. From what I can tell, he's cool but high-string and obsessive and posessive of her. He's ALWAYS on her nuts calling her and stuff.

So the question is: WHAT DO I DO WITH HER? She's definitely the most beautiful girl I've ever kissed or maybe even touched, and we have a lot in common, but I dono what she wants from me. I personally am looking for a girlfriend at least for now.Are we just friends with benefits? Is that all we can be? Should I bring this up? Would calling her once in a while help my case? (we only talk through occasional emails and once in a while I call to say hi).

Anything helps, shoot me your two cents
Thanks =)
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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MetalFortress

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Is the risk worth the reward? Do you want to be her bf bad enough that you'll risk being her makeout buddy? You know she fools around on her boyfriend already, so is it worth the risk of going out with her, and then YOU getting fooled around on?

Only you can answer this, not us. That answer should determine your course of action.
 

Jerky Boi

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He hit the nail right on the head. If she's messing around with you while she's with the other guy, what's going to stop her from doing it to you? I mean, I'm not telling you to just fvck her and leave, but you developing feelings for this girl might not be the best alternative altogether. It's all up to you though man. I'd say just keep things the way they are now and see where they lead because you really don't know what she's looking for in you yet either.
 

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Originally posted by Jerky Boi
I'd say just keep things the way they are now and see where they lead because you really don't know what she's looking for in you yet either.
How can I find out?
 

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Originally posted by AC/DC
How can I find out?
try patience. if she's digging you, no need to rush into things. let all the pieces fall where they may.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Haha, a poll would've been nice but anyways. Is this the girl you showed me the pic of on AIM?
Anyways dude I would keep it the way it is for now until she dumps him. You are happy with it like this right? And calling her once in awhile isn't so bad, but only stay on the phone for about 20 mins.

Good luck.
-Mike
 
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