Bokanovsky
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Ask her if she went back to the restaurant to pay what she owes them.Reyaj said:I haven't responded... but if I were going to it would probably be with a diss lol
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Ask her if she went back to the restaurant to pay what she owes them.Reyaj said:I haven't responded... but if I were going to it would probably be with a diss lol
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
i can see this devastating her.Atom Smasher said:For the sake of speculation and discussion, what do you guys think of a response like this:
"You fail to meet my standards. Moving on."
i strongly disagree with your post. doing what you recommend will reinforce her poor behavior and weaken your inner strength.Zarky said:I'd say, "Not a problem," "No big deal," or my favorite: "Hey, it is what it is." Totally vague, noncommittal replies. And see where she goes from there. She might just want to smooth things over as she exits your life, or she may want to continue with you. If she continues the conversation you could still turn this into a lay because you will have HANDMajor HAND
Reyaj said:You know I actually thought of this after the fact.... the one silver lining is that she picked this place as she frequents it often.. maybe next time she goes in the bartender will remember her...
I did send her a text afterwards "lol I can see why you are close to 40 and still single"
Probably unnecessary but one of my trademarks![]()
Quite well. I've never been in that exact situation, but I've had women storm out on me before and every single one who's contacted me afterward has slept with me on our first "date" after reconciliation.visions said:how has your suggestion worked out for you in the past?
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Zarky said:I'd say, "Not a problem," "No big deal," or my favorite: "Hey, it is what it is." Totally vague, noncommittal replies. And see where she goes from there. She might just want to smooth things over as she exits your life, or she may want to continue with you. If she continues the conversation you could still turn this into a lay because you will have HANDMajor HAND
Zarky said:Quite well. I've never been in that exact situation, but I've had women storm out on me before and every single one who's contacted me afterward has slept with me on our first "date" after reconciliation.
Ray Gordon used to call these "Returning Foxes." ( http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/sex/Technique/Seduction/seductionlibrary/perfect11.html ) You have extreme power when they come back. It's common knowledge and I'm surprised more posters in this thread have no idea about this.
I don't know why you'd blow her off like a butthurt schoolboy. I rarely get upset by women's actions, I merely try to turn them into lays. If you find yourself "putting women in their place" rather than f*cking them, I think you're missing the point. And the point is that for most women there are two types of people: The guys who f*ck them, and everyone else. Putting a woman in her place is pointless, because if you're not f*cking her, she won't give a sh*t about what you think. The only guy who can put a woman in her place is the guy who's already f*cking her.
In fact, now that I think about it, I rarely have major emotional reactions to anything women do. To me it's all a game. I don't take them seriously, and I don't take myself seriously. I don't take their actions seriously, I don't take what they say seriously, and I'm certainly not upset when they storm out or yell or cry. I think in a purely strategic way, usually devoid of emotion. And what I think is, "How can I turn this situation into getting more p*ssy."
If you want to bang lots of women, I suggest you do the same.
I think you are the one who's missing the point. Tolerating entitled, sh*tty attitude for the sake of getting laid is the textbook definition of betaism. This is why you will never graduate from banging HB4-5 POF shanks.Zarky said:I don't know why you'd blow her off like a butthurt schoolboy. I rarely get upset by women's actions, I merely try to turn them into lays. If you find yourself "putting women in their place" rather than f*cking them, I think you're missing the point. And the point is that for most women there are two types of people: The guys who f*ck them, and everyone else.
aw boky, did that little personal attack make you feel better about your inferiority? Because what you can't seem to fathom is that I don't have to "tolerate" any "sh*tty" behavior. Women's behavior literally has no emotional impact on me whatsoever. Or at least no lasting impact. That's what a true beta such as yourself will never be able to understand.Tolerating entitled, sh*tty attitude for the sake of getting laid is the textbook definition of betaism. This is why you will never graduate from banging HB4-5 POF shanks.]
You still don't understand. She's not really "apologizing". She's trying to seek closure on HER terms. She is not at all interested in him. She probably thinks she deserves an A&F jeans model right off their flyer.Zarky said:]thanks, visions, for your thoughtful and well-reasoned comment. Bokanovski could learn something from you.
aw boky, did that little personal attack make you feel better about your inferiority? Because what you can't seem to fathom is that I don't have to "tolerate" any "sh*tty" behavior. Women's behavior literally has no emotional impact on me whatsoever. Or at least no lasting impact. That's what a true beta such as yourself will never be able to understand.
So if a woman storms out on me and then later calls me up to apologize, I'll graciously let her come over that night and suck my d*ck. Whereas you'll "put her in her place" and then spend the night beating off to youporn with tears streaming down your face.
See the difference? I actually get p*ssy.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
If I were in this situation i would say, no response. No point in going back to someone who did you wrong. Im finding that no response is sometimes a killer response. Makes them wonder what they did wrong and it cuts deeper than a neutral response.betheman said:a simple and very effective response..."fvck off" seriously, try it
You say that like it matters what she thinks.Danger said:Ugh.
She will read butthurt all over this.
Sigh.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Scarcity mindset deployed.Danger said:Ugh.
She will read butthurt all over this.
Sigh.
Some people need a simple **** you response. Whats up with americans and their passively aggressive behavior.Danger said:My point is that by replying he has chosen to "play her game" over self-respect.
Like all choices in life, when you go down the wrong path it is often self-reinforcing.
The real problem with most men, is the lack of self-discipline. That is it. Seriously.
You pick the best path and you stay with it.
Men who cannot have the self-discipline when it comes to retaining self-respect will NEVER do well with women, or in any place in life. If one cannot retain self-discipline in a situation where replying only makes you look bad, then there is just too little raw material to work with in creating a "DJ".
It is just frustrating watching man after man after man fall into this trap of feeling like they have to make weak comments like this one. Especially when all it serves is to justify her original thought in the first place. That he is unworthy and in this case "feeling rejected".
Utterly pointless, puts the betaness on full display, and just another failure on self-discipline.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.